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BEADLE & LANGBEIN, London
1892 Beadle & Langbein.
1914 Music Trades Directory mentions the name Beadle & Langbein across the bottom of many pages, with a variety of different slogans.
1920 Beadle & Langbein piano #19,328 owned by Mr Baker, whose mother said she saw it being made at Camden Town.
Circa 1925? Beadle & Langbein piano.
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I have just recently purchased a Beadle & Langbein. It was in regular use and is and will be from now on.
Besides its beautiful looks, it has a very beautiful deep and full sound. I can post pictures of it if you like, or take a look here and download them:
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Playing it is really enjoyable.
More infos upon request
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We have just bought a Beadle & Langbein upright piano and would loveto know more about it.
It has a gold Beadle & Langbein London sign painted on the inside lid, with another gold painted sign just above the keys saying F. Hepworth Huddersfield, which I am guessing is the retailer, as we live in West Yorkshire.
there is a number stamped on he top - 19830.
It is in full working arder, if cosmetically a little worn and obviously pre-loved, but finding out as a Crouch End boy that the factory was in Finsbury Park is amazing. Would love to know more about it's age or history, or more about the factory.
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Beadle & Langbein were mainly wholesalers, many of their pianos were sold with fictitious names by retailers. Their address was 5 Royal Park Buildings, Arlington Road, Camden Town NW.
Hepworth Brother appear in our lists after 1894, and were also in Paisley by 1911, but no connection is known with the Huddersfield firm, who do not appear that early.
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i will post pictures as soon as i figure out how :)
any help you can give would be great.
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Expecting to see a stamped number there is only the number 816 written in pencil on a wooden strut running across the back, can you advise where else i should be looking to find more info.
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My Beadle and Langbein has just arrived (yesterday) after being cared for by a friend for about 10 years. It was given to me by my parents (before I had anywhere to actually put it) and was given to them by my great grandfather as a wedding present over 30 years ago. Until reading the posts here, we had no idea of its origins or age.
Having visited www.pianogen.org, I have learned that it is overstrung. It is also very similar to the previously posted photograph (posted on 21/6/12 at 11:58) - I will have to take a photo and put it up. I'll also look for the serial number since it is of interest to Bill Kibby.
It still plays reasonably well - though is now in need of a tune (booked in for a couple of weeks time when the instrument has settled down a bit).
I'm so pleased to have found this forum because, until now, nobody was able to tell me anything about the manufacturer or history of it!
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Bill Kibby wrote:Details of antique pianos are always interesting to me, but I have very little to add about the company yet.
We have a Beadle & Langbein piano number 1672 allegedly made by my maternal grandfather Mr J C Ulrich & has been in the family ever since. He also made pianos in his own name & lived in Wandsworth London. I would be interesting to have a date of manufacture & any other information. Chris, North Yorkshire
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I am sorry to say that you know more than I do about J.C.Ulrich. I will check when I am back in the office, but I don't recall seeing the name in Wandsworth. Do you have an idea when he was operating?
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We could tell you more about the individual piano if you could post some photos here, or email them to me to post.
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This is just a suggestion....
with the huge number of enquiries asking about piano history & information with no photos, incorrect or alleged/ guessed serial numbers, wording just copied from a piano lid or label, "can you tell me anything about this piano?" etc.... would it make sense to add to the header above (or a separate notice bulletin) to say that a photo of the piano MUST be submitted to support any kind of information given? .... It may also save your sanity! ...... surely anyone asking for information based on just a number or wording from a label only would only get.... "if you could send a photo, it might help" .... and of course, any correct serial number submitted would be backed up (with some confidence) knowing what the piano looked like. I myself would be ruthless to say, no photo, no info! ??
Obviously, a "photo" meaning a full clearly focussed colour image of the piano, no piano stool, fallboard lid open and no clutter and everything removed from the top and around the piano.
Just an idea
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This particular enquiry ends up being purely a request for valuation.
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I have the same problem like pjmann.
I have vertical piano J.Becker and i would know how old is it.
Can somebody help my?
serial no. 27473
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Just been forwarded your post but not sure who pjmann is - can't see him on the forum.
However, your query seems to be about a J. Becker piano, not a Beadle & Langbein piano which I have posted about in the past as this was from my family.
Referring to The Musician's Piano Atlas, there is very little information on Jacob Becker, St. Petersburg, Russia but it does give numbers from 1860-1880 and it says that they started in 1860 at serial number 4980 and in 1880 at 10009. No later information is given, but it would suggest that your piano is quite a bit later.
If you wanted information on a Beadle & Langbein piano, the company did not keep any records in the family and probably they can only be interpreted or extrapolated from the numbers available to forum members.
I have recently supplied a lot of family history and recent research into Beadle & Langbein to Bill Kibby one of the forum moderators on Beadle & Langbein which he is trying to digest at the moment!
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Sorry I couldn't get onto the site for some time but was going to answer your query.
I have recently supplied a lot of family history and recent research into Beadle & Langbein to Bill Kibby one of the forum moderators on Beadle & Langbein which he is trying to digest at the moment!
As regards Andrew and Adolphus Beadle, they were brothers and sons of Andrew Beadle (pianoforte maker) born 1825 died 1894.
Andrew Beadle, son, born 1845 died 1917 (pianoforte key maker - as listed in various censuses).
Adolphus Horace Beadle, son, born 1863 died 1899 (journeyman piano maker - as listed in various censuses).
Many of the family worked in various parts of the thriving piano industry in North London. Arthur Beadle,1853-1918, was also a son of Andrew Beadle 1825-1894, and seems to have been responsible for forming the partnership with Henry Langbein, probably in the 1880's.
The company then passed to his son Arthur Beadle 1880-1960 and was incorporated as a limited company in 1921.The company suffered in the depression of 1931 and moved to smaller premises and was finally dissoved in 1937.
Arthur Beadle continued a happy life until 1960 and I remember him and his sister quite well. My stepfather, Eric Arthur Beadle was his only son, he was apprenticed into the piano business but went onto other things in the 1930s when business was not so good. He continued to tune my piano and other peoples player pianos on a voluntary basis until the end!
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This is Robert Beadle again, I've just managed to log in to the forum again. I've answered several posts which you will see above - as regards your query about Frederick Beadle, I'll try and email you a copy of the family tree which I don't think I sent you with the information below.
Frederick Beadle was born 1847 and died in 1921 and is listed in various censuses as cabinet maker or tuner. He was also a son of Andrew Beadle 1825-1894 and a brother of Andrew 1845-1917, Adolphus Horace and Arthur Beadle mentioned in previous replies above.
There was another Frederick Beadle born 1870, the son of Andrew Beadle 1845-1917 and he is listed as a piano maker, seems like third generation being apprenticed!
For information I have put the following paragraph on a couple of replies.
I have recently supplied a lot of family history and recent research into Beadle & Langbein to Bill Kibby one of the forum moderators on Beadle & Langbein which he is trying to digest at the moment!
All the very best
Robert Beadle
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Hope the attached photo helps. I've just acquired this free from a friend. The serial number on a metal strip up top is 6878. It has seller's marks reading Thomas piano warehouse, Smith St, St Peter Port, Guernsey. In Guernsey it has stayed ever since.
Any notion of it's heritage would be welcome!
It's a beauty. Hopefully once settled and tuned it will play ok too.
Many thanks for your time,
James.
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I'm new to this forum. I recently inherited a Beadle & Langbein player piano but couldn't find any info on it online until I found this forum here. It's got the number 20664 printed above the strings, and includes a "Standard Player Action" mechanism.
I've included a few pictures with this post. Just wanted to see what you guys think.
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My name is Lynne and my dad, Brian, was your dad (Eric's) apprentice!
We were just talking about you today!
I hope you get this message as Eric's Beadle is still in business and Brian would really like a photo of your dad.
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