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mdw

If by crisp tone you mean bright sounding then most people on here seem to be in a massive rush to get a tech straight on their Yams to tone them down the moment they have bought them, so exceptional...........no normal ............ yes!

mdw

Nigel wrote:I have only considered new as I would not know what to look for out on my own in the second hand market.

Sadly its just as easy to buy a c**p piano new as it is 2nd hand. Find a good trustworthy local dealer and take his/her advice.

mdw

Well I for one found it entertaning, especialy the bit where you didnt want to pay £ 25 an hour !!!!!!!!! :shock: for a tech to sort the piano properly. If your tech will call out to you for £25 an hour I would bite his arm off and have him rebuild the piano ( if hes any good). B...

mdw

Sounds like the Fazer is over priced then, that doesn't surprise me from the type of saleman that was in the shop. It realy depends onthe condition of the individual piano. I recently sold a Fazer for £1600 and it was worth every bit of the money. It looked like it had come out of the fac...

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Barrie Heaton wrote: but if you want them extra white then you need to bleach the ivory

Barrie,

Be very carefull with the UV light they recomend you use as you can damage your eyes with exposure to it.

mdw

Its all Knights in schools as they were pretty much what schools got up until they stopped making them a few years back. If its a new Chappell or Brindsmead then its a Kemble with a different badge on it. I know what you mean re not being able to see pianos, around here you cant try a Yam for about ...

mdw

A440 wrote: If it's a reputable dealer there should be no back-up issues,.

I think the comment on the back up issue was based on the fact that the dealer is selling at cost therefore making no profit therefore quite likely to be not around when the back up is needed.

mdw

No , buy the Kemble. If the dealer is a idiot its not your fault. You are saving so much money that even if he does go bust you are quids in and you could probably hassle Kembles in to sorting major problems ( which I have never had on any we have sold).

mdw

The big problem with UFCH where the pipes are burried in a concrete slab is the heat up time. It can take a day to heat the slab from cold to correct temp, however the heat in the slab will hold for another day so you run the heating 24/7 and allow each room thermostat to kick in once a day or so. I...

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[quote="Barrie HeatonThis is a bit of a price war going on with some retailers with Kemble but it will not last so I would get the Kemble before the price is back were it should be Barrie,[/quote] What is it then, they have mucked up the Yamaha market and now want to move on to something else t...

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I recon you could get him to drop further, if he is advertising at that price he is desperate and probably has the bank on his back to get rid of some stock! :twisted: I just hope Kembles have got their position covered. He is going to sell you the piano and guarantee it for 10 years for less money ...

mdw

If thats the correct price on the Kemble then you should assume no long term back up from the dealer.

mdw

I have seen 2 fully rebuilt older grands destroyed by UFCH in modern churchs. However I installed a NuHeat water UFCH in my home about 4 years ago and have had no probs at all with a modern Kemble upright. My advice would be avoid older pianos with UFCH even if they have had full rebuilds. If you fo...

mdw

At 520lbs this must be a small grand. Sofa castor cups WON'T do the job (they will most likely be too small and break). I use some offcuts of 15mm softwood. Works fine. I have 'hardwood' floors, and without support the piano castors would dent them for sure. If its a grand then yes the castors will...

mdw

As 3 fat blokes sitting on a sofa will weigh more than that, sofa castor cups will be fine. Get ones with the flat base and a felt pad on the underside. Most diy sheds do them.

mdw

They suggest getting the tuner to come and fix it, which they say 'won't cost you a lot'. Am I being naive? I just spent many thousands of pounds on a piano - should I have to pay to get it set up right? Did you buy the piano localy or from a web dealer. Either way they are trying it on. That sort ...

mdw

Like Barrie I was taught to do it at college and in the early years was asked twice. Its now 20plus years since ive done it and I cant even remember which scale it was. I guess I could if I got the books out again but unless you have a particular old piano or harpsichord you want it done to there se...

mdw

We sure do seem to know the price of everything and the value of nothing in this country.
Is that on the basis of no funding or not enough students.

mdw

For goodness sake buy a piano whose " tone" you like and don't try fiddling with it after. Sorry, but that's bollox. I know precisely the pianos whose tone I like the best. They are: Steinway D and B Right, so according to you I should stop messing about and just go out and buy one. OK th...

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vernon wrote:For goodness sake buy a piano whose " tone" you like and don't try fiddling with it after.

Couldnt agree more Vernon.

mdw

Never been to the US but tuned the odd Baldwin so I know what you mean.

mdw

I reallse its much easier to make it more mellow rather than brighter but you never hear anybody say oooooooooooh my yam isnt bright enough do you.!!!!

mdw

I have a very thick rug underneath the C7 at the moment, and lots of furnishings in the room, but it's still "bright": much rather bright, as far as I am concerned, than muffled. But I have read posts elsewhere raving about C7s (and other Yammies) which have been toned down... From readin...

mdw

Try mucking about with the acoustics of the room first, it might be cheaper. If you have lots of hard surfaces, wood floors, no curtains and no soft furnishings stick a big thick rug on the floor and see if it changes the sound.

mdw

Any chance of a pic, even if you cant get the real thing you may get a few sugestions on repairing it.
You could always advertise for a dead one on ebay and salvage bits off it.

mdw

Go with the the Kawai, IMO its a better bit of kit, should hold its value better as there are thousands of 2nd hand Yams out there. I don't think it will. Much as I rate new Kawais, second hand ones are blighted with the "Kawai who?" syndrome. Go for the Kawai if you genuinely like it, no...

mdw

Go with the the Kawai, IMO its a better bit of kit, should hold its value better as there are thousands of 2nd hand Yams out there.

mdw

Blimey. I don't doubt he's good, but somebody please tell him to do something about that shocking website. Spelling errors, poor grammar and a completely unattractive layout do him no favours. It does look a bit pants so its a good thing people are after him for his piano skills. On the otherhand t...

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PianoGuy wrote:Correct Bösendorfer and Kemble and Co Press release :

Since we own the buggers and they depend on us for their wages, they can hardly refuse. ”

mdw

which alarmed me slightly as his usual selling price for these is only 4850-ish - is he really suggesting I'll have to accept a loss of almost 3K for one month's use of the Disklavier (for which I paid just under 8K)? Think how much you would loose if he was buying it back for cash. Its as bad if n...

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The instrument's value can't really have depreciated much because of my usage - it would have been a demo instrument in the dealer's showroom if I hadn't bought it and would have retained its value. I would expect to pay something for the extra costs of transport and packaging though. Look at it an...

mdw

For squeeks and rattles contact the supplying dealer. Unless they are on the invoice you didnt pay for them so shouldnt have to put up with them :) . This is what the guarantee is for. The uneven touch tone should also be sorted out buy them. The sooner you get on to them about this the better. Has ...

mdw

Strangley you have more rights for refund / return within a short time of purchase with net purchases than going into a shop and buying it.

mdw

You should speak to the dealer about all of this. If you bought over the net you should check up on your rights re distance selling regs if you are going to ask for a refund. If your not covered by the regs I would say you have no chance, an exchange perhaps but the dealer will do everything to avoi...

mdw

The guarantee is covered by the retailer so check with them. The market for selling 2nd hand big grands is going to be almost zero at the moment ( compared to what it has been) so find out how desperate the 2nd hand owner is too sell. I would imagine they wont be able to sell it back to the supplyin...

mdw

So tarted up rather than reconditioned. We have a cowboy localy whos idea of reconditioning is to clean the keys and replace the nameboard felt

if only I had known it was that easy I could have saved the 3 years training at Newark.

mdw

As a piano dealer ive always tried to find good low milage UK stock and never really got involved in 2nd hand Yams etc. None of the pianos I buy in for stock from the late 80s need reconditioning yet, a bit of regulating etc perhaps. So my question is are these Yams described as reconditioned, total...

mdw

I always find the moment Ive written the cheque is the time to stop wondering if its a good deal or not! If you wanted the other one you should have bought the other one as if its the right piano you should never need to change it. Without seeing it none of us can tell you what sort of nick its in s...

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DoctorAl wrote:we may be able to get an accurate verdict from someone who definitely doesn't want the job themselves!
Al

Trust me if its the treble bridge there wont be many people who will want the job!

mdw

DoctorAl wrote: am I right to presume that an unglued treble bridge would result in tuning instability?

Yes, I see more bass than treble gone but either way you will have other problems to deal with as well.

mdw

Heres a controversial idea. Try lots of pianos and buy the one you like. If you dont like it dont buy it and then try to get it changed into something it isnt! You wouldnt buy a volvo and then get your local grease monkey to turn it into a bmw so why do people want to do it to a piano. If Yamaha wan...

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Bridge unglued from soundboard?

mdw

there are different silent systems out there so each is different with the setoff, genio is around 10-12 depending on how the rail fits, the pianodisc is around the same.Yamaha may say 5.5 to 8mm but on a few I've had to make it 10mm to stop the hammers blocking. You can normaly get the set off dow...

mdw

Go to Citizens advice and ask what your rights are. Worst case go to small claims court. They will likely not want the hassle and sort it out before it gets too far. Sadly you will have to invest a bit of time to start the process.

mdw

Time to start giving Yamaha themselves some greif then. If their dealer is not up to scratch then get Yamaha to sort it. We sell Kemble and I will still guarantee educational use for 5 years. If a kid rips hammers out then no but normal suff like sticky notes etc then fair enough we cover it. Did yo...

mdw

Most piano shops that do the whole job properly tend to be piano only shops therefore no need to go to a general music show.
Its a bit of a step back in time to when I started in the trade and it was pianos only show back then.

mdw

You can have silent systems added to almost any piano.

mdw

perna83 wrote: and am not aware of any other piano make that does a silent range.

You can have almost any piano fitted with a silent system.

mdw

If you are going to change again in a few years be prepared to loose a fortune. Buy a 2nd hand piano if thats the case.

mdw

The 2nd hand Yams range from good to rubish. If you want to be 100% sure buy new and if you dont want to follow the crowd but still want a good piano try the same size Kemble. Might cost you a bit more now but the residuals will be better if you have to sell, also has a nicer case and a bit more cla...

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