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Further to the above, I contacted Ibach and they confirm 1919 ... and they have a comprehensive archive that can be accessed for a small fee, to certify where it was built, who bought it and when, for how much. My curiosity has now got the better of me!

Thank you, much appreciated ... That's earlier than I thought.
When I get some photos posted someone will no doubt be able to back that up!
Thanks again :-)

As I cannot see my first post/thread listed apologies if there is a delay and I am repeating myself ...
In short I would like to accurately date a Rud Ibach with the serial number 81800 (previous post said 82800 in error)
Many thanks,
Mike.