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Just make sure you change it as soon as you are sure hes going to carry on with the piano as an honest point of view from a tech and probably most teachers is they are grotty pianos. That's about the size of it. OK (if tuneable) purely for learning where the notes are. Not one for serious study at ...

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Openwood wrote:Maybe Noddy didn't pay for his Model D on time.

Ba doom, tish!

"Thang yew verry mooch, fawlks, aall be here aal week..."

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Dear PG Another tidbit is that when our tuner came to tune our new Bechstein Academy 124 ... he said that tuning the Bechstein was a joy to him compared to tuning our old Rosler(Petrof) made in the soviet era. I thought that he meant that since the Bechstein had such a beautiful singing tone that t...

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I think hes refering to the US not Estonia and the fact that although they ( Estonias) may be rated in the US its not nessesarily a good recomendation for the rest of the world. The US also rate Kimballs and Baldwins which are grim when seen over here. Er, yes I was. I don't think Kimball sold thou...

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Another problem is that this model seems to have been discontinued and replaced by P194 Storm which seems to have quite a few new features eg Duplex scaling. It appears that Petrof are introducing significant improvements in their range. I wonder if the severe criticism relates mainly to older mode...

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Lady speak the truth.

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Why does Larry Fine rate them higher than Kawais? DOCL Because he's a stupid Yank who doesn't know better? Who knows? :twisted: Seriously though, in the USA, European anythings (cars, stereos, fashion items, pianos etc) have a cachet over and above domestic and 'Asian' goods which are almost too fa...

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RX2 would be my choice too, although Bostons come out of the same factory and some people like the Steinway associations. Petrofs are total cr*p and I've not seen too many recent Estonias to comment. They have a good reputation in the States, but I have a slight mistrust of a nation who voted in a w...

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Wa hey!

PianoGuy

What an enlightening week .. avid contributors, experienced advice, personal preferences, interesting opinions and the odd tweeked tail! :D Tomorrow then .. can't wait! He he. Good luck! I envy you. As is oft suggested on here, buy the piano that *you* feel most at one with, and use all of our comm...

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But Yamaha themselves didnt do anything to stop or reduce the discounting either did they. Plus they may be ok kit but its boring being faced with yet another U1 OR U3. Very true, and they're paying the price. More loyalty to Kemble and Kawai from their dealers. Admittedly the Kemble designs on the...

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Id go for the Kawai anytime as I don't like the sound of Yamaha's. But its personel opinion. Also remember the construction will be better on the Kawai as its a solid soundboard and give better resonance. Certainly will. Can't fault a Kawai soundboard, and the b-series are certainly let down by the...

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Ha ha ha!! Hello all! Yes, my Sauter comment was specially engineered to ruffle a few feathers, and so was the "Yamaha in drag", although as usual I believe there's more than a grain of truth in both comments. I can't see the point in wasting beautiful materials in places where they're not...

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am interested to know what you think of the Sauter M130 enjaydee? if you are looking for special then I think it certainly fits the bill :) ebony sharps, val di fiemme soundboard, brass damper barrels and birdseye maple lined case interior and hammer rests, walnut hammerheads on hornbeam shanks etc...

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Incidentely, the Kemble 121 Mozart was tested in Europe by a team of World renown concert pianists and came second to a Steinway that was 4 times more expensive . Have you tried the conservatoir or the top of the range K132 ? A few of my customers have the conservatoir and the 121 and rave about th...

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Need advice please... pre-owned (7 yrs old) Kawai K25E for £1800 or brand new Yamaha B3? Depends what the deal on the used one is. If it comes with delivery and warranty then I'd swing towards suggesting the Kawai, but if it's private sale or delivery is extra, the b3 looks better value. Both piano...

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I did try a Bluthner model B on my travels and found it to be overly muted and mellow for my tastes - a lovely piano but not quite living upto expectations. Similarly, the Bechsteins and Bosendorfer 130 I tried were certainly extremely nice, but didn't quite live up to expectation given the very hi...

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They're vastly overrated and most have cracks in the *frame*!

PianoGuy

It's still the Bluthner that I like the most, so any further advice is welcome. What would be your shortlist and how do they stack up in terms of holding their value? I have not found a Bosendorfer 130 to try although this appears to go up in price again. Nor have I tried a Yamaha SU7 which I see f...

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In my search - we also tested Schimmels and I also was disappointed - they were not 'bad' sounding - the touch was excellent - but at that price we wanted something a bit more. Nicely observed. Very well made pianos and pleasant to tune, but offering very little over a similarly sized Yamaha or Kem...

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I didn't take to the Irmler at all and found the Schimmel rather disappointing, given it's price. Perhaps I was unlucky with the setup. It was the Kemble Mozart that performed well above expectation and surprised me the most for it's price. Yes. One of the few pianos to punch above its weight. The ...

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The Irmler would be a mistake, but all the others you suggest would be good options. The A is a lovely piano but pricey. Great if you can afford it.

PianoGuy

Certainly try Kemble, quite popular in Singapore and Malaysia at one time, and see if you can track down a Hellas or Fazer. Young Chang (formerly Yung Chang) initially were based on rehashed Yamaha designs, so may suit your reqiurements.

Good luck!

PG

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sussexpianos wrote:I remember a Petrof grand coming in playing like a sack of potatoes.

They all came in like that at one time, and they're not particularly brilliant even now.

PianoGuy

Put together in the UK using European parts and its not large scale or any dealers in the UK, so I stand by my statement. As opposed to Kemble? Put together in the UK using Japanese and European parts (I suspect others as well) so no real difference apart from scale of production. Oh! Except the Ke...

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Geelan wrote:Well, after a 300 miles + round trip drive today, I have much lighter wallet and a new Kemble Mozart (Mahogany/Marquetry version).

An excellent choice.

Pretty too.

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All Kawai pianos are built in Japan. No they're not. The K15-E is built in Indonesia with a Japanese action. A-prefix serial numbers are assembled in the USA using native casework and Japanese actions, but they're so foul, I for one am glad they don't come over here save for personal imports. Kembl...

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Austin.

Every time.

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As to your two different sounding pianos that is not uncommon and its not the dealer it the guys at the factory you will have many techs in a factory voicing some better than others but they send some out bright and some soft Add in the fact that no two soundboards will sound the same since they're...

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Some gold lettering depicting where the piano was manufactured is missing. One of the keys is sticking. Tuned a Z1 today, and a lovely piano it was too. Reminded me of this thread when I noticed: The nameboard had "Zimmermann" in inlaid brass letters, "Made by C Bechstein, Berlin&quo...

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*voices fade*

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I get hacked off with the dealers who won't let anyone but their tuners attend pianos. I have customers who have bought from a dealer, prefer my tuning but are held to ransom by the dealer saying the guarantee only covers their tuners. Either the piano's guaranteed or it isn't; as long as the tuner...

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my view is...... A) 1985 + U1 is far better that a B1 - B2 and B3 B) a new B3 is better buy than a pre 1980 U1 As a rule I completely agree. (1) I am going to discard the Used piano option - I am really not willing to take a 3,000 pound risk with something I do not know much about (2) Visit Jaques ...

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Piano Guy What a delight it is to suddenly come on a piano, maybe of no particular make, that does exactly what it is told, almost jumps into tune a gives you a glowing feeling of satisfaction. Pretty rare. I have a Knight piano and a Schimmel that I tune yearly, but which never budge and I can spe...

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I must say that the technical info on this forum is excellent... I have this new Bechstein Academy upright but I am not expert enough to tell whether it has this 'false Bechstein' syndrome or not - the piano tuner did not appear to off put when he worked on the upper treble... Nah! New Bechsteins a...

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Nobody has ever explained why Bechsteins were plagued thus. It's the tightness of the route of the string through the agraffe. Each string vibrates at a slightly different speed in the A-B plane to the X-Y plane resulting in a beat. A dreadful phenomenon and why Bechsteins really don't deserve thei...

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I would agree they are more unstable over time in a shifting environment they can swing 10 to 15 cents in some homes Exactly that. And no, not tight pins, but a tendency for a unison or three to drop out of tune here and there. I always seem to have to spend more time on them than a Yamaha. I agree...

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The one thing that none of the tuners on here appear to have mentioned is that Kawais of all descriptions are harder to tune than Yamahas and also less stable. This has diddley squat to do with the alchemy of oil-based chemicals (and there's another point to consider) which go to make the M3 action,...

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The abs carbon action is far supeiror to the wooden action in mnay ways. No it's not. It is however a valid approach to piano design and a superior plastic to any other used in piano construction to date, but certainly not as repairable or as good to play as the best wooden designs. Kawai have only...

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Hello Ma. As Barrie says you may need a tropicalized piano. I noticed on another thread that the back of your soundboard had been painted. I thought at first this was due to an over zealous decorator, but in fact this is often done to tropicalize a soundboard as it is believed less moisture will en...

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PG....Used piano ???......It was new....Admittedly it's not new now, because i have owned it for 2 years from new... Ah! I now agree with you totally! I interpreted your post that it's a piano new to yourself, but two years old, ie a nearly-new used one. In that case certainly the dealer should sor...

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Surely not enamel? Some restorers use a white tinted varnish which just allows the woodgrain to show through. It gives the impression of a new soundboard, rather like the bleaching process favoured by many Polish workshops. Varnish shouldn't have too much of a detrimental effect on the sound, althou...

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MA. CECILIA M. DE MESA wrote:i am from the philippines...

Do you have a piano from the Philippines?

I understand there is a local brand. Trebel?

PG

PianoGuy

My original post was... "What do i do when a dealer fails to address some issues i have regarding a new piano i purchased from them. ? " I didn't expect to be told i was being unreasonable, and that i am a right pain in the :oops: as PG suggested... Well, I really think that your concern ...

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The piano in question is a new Zimmerman....less than 2 years old, and the company in question is about 40 miles from me.. If the piano's not brand new, then unless you pointed it out at the time of purchase and the dealer agreed to repair it, the lettering is irrelevant. I assume you're talking ab...

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most cheap pianos have laminated soundboards, its cheap, and most people look at the case and the price tag. You dont see cheap Kawai pianos because they refuse to use thin laminated soundboards, but I guess ecconomics will win over. I realise there are a fair few Kawai dealers on here, but even th...

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This upright piano has been in our family since about 1910 and was, I think, new when we got it. It is still in very good condition on the outside and has been tuned regularly, but needs work on the inside, although it still plays passably. I would like to find out if anything much is known of Rein...

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Have come round to 2 choices The U1 or the PX124nt. I know the U1 is highly favoured here but are there any issues with the PX124 that make it a turkey. I liked the look of this piano over the U1 and the sound at the dealers did appeal to me more than the U1 I tried at the store. The PX124 is basic...

PianoGuy

A Kemble 6-octave would be better if you can find one.

Unless the Eavestaff's in a ghroooovy colour or has chrome lamps, ditch it and revert to plan B!

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mdw wrote:Drop actions and short strings make for a 2nd rate set up in my book!

They do in mine too, especially if made by the Yanks, but the Eavestaff Mini with the '50s "Festival of Britain" style case and slopey front is decent.

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