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i am about to buy my first 2nd hand Rameau Piano. i don't know if it has Langer 75, Langer 80 or Renner Action. Does it matter? Should i pass on the deal if it's not Renner? i read/heard that Langer was inferiour to Renner...
It's about a Rameau piano N° 26 275, +- 1982, which plays beautiful.
As regards a professional answer to your question there are a number of correspondents to this forum who hopefully will give you the advice requested. Needless to say I am more than happy with the action fitted to my Kemble and it still looks brand new.
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For curiosity though, best to check it out.
I've had no trouble with servicing/ regulating either mechanism.... but of course, even if one says that Renner is better than Langer, a scenario could be that a Renner action may have never been serviced in its life.... so that particular one would be poor.
I would also ask the seller how often it has been regulated - should be every 2-3 years (every 5 years max).... not just tuned. Also check the following for assessment:-
Condition of hammer heads (striking point) for wear/ grooves from strings.... how often toned?
Alignment & spacing of hammers with strings/ striking distance checked/ rest rail baize condition
Alignment of back checks with balance leathers/ any lost motion / damper lift
General condition of hammer butt springs and flange loops/ damper felts & springs etc
Condition of key bushings/ keys level / touch depth
Condition of materials such as leathers (both butt & balance)/ cushion felts/ baize/ cloth etc
.... the most important thing>> condition of strings/ tuning pins/ pin torque/ tuning stability /
check also no insect damage.
That's just a few pointers....
hope that helps..
As I understand it's not been tuned for many years, you'd be advised to wait a week or two to allow the piano to become acclimatised to it's new location and environment, and then have it tuned (1/4 of a half note out of tune can be unpleasant to listen to). Regulation is important too, don't overlook that.
A good choice by the way, I rather like some of the Rameau uprights. They can be excellent value, but like all used pianos should really be checked-out by a tech prior to purchase to avoid potential buyers remorse.
Good luck, and enjoy your 'new' piano.