1977 Bluthner Model 10, advice sought.

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1977 Bluthner Model 10, advice sought.

Post by Model V » 09 Mar 2012, 22:38

My friend has been offered a 1977 Bluthner Model 10 grand and as it belongs to his friend the price is very low.

I went to see it myself tonight and it seems a nice piano; mahogany case in very god condition, the insides look very clean and it plays nicely, despite being in need of a little regulation and voicing. The extreme bass is weak, but otherwise it has a good tone.

My main concern is that as 1977 was the height of the Cold War, and Leipzig was in the DDR at the time, will this be a good piano to buy? I've played and loved “Golden Age” Bluthners and new ones at Berkeley Square but never encountered an Iron Curtain one!

Any comments/advice?

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Post by Colin Nicholson » 10 Mar 2012, 00:41

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Post by joseph » 10 Mar 2012, 12:08

I've played quite a few Iron Curtain ones. As long as the price is low it's OK. They need quite a bit of servicing, like regulation etc. They are still good instruments by design, but they aren't as precise as the Golden Age ones and they're not a patch on the new ones.

I'd say that between 2 and 5k depending on condition (for me to part with as much as 5K, apart from a small lottery win, the piano would have to be mint condition).

Of course, if you LOVE the piano, then it depends how much you're willing to pay for it.

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Post by Barrie Heaton » 10 Mar 2012, 14:00

Buy it with a view that you are going to have it restored in the future when it is restored you will have an exceptional piano for a fraction of the cost of a new one



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Post by Model V » 10 Mar 2012, 14:13

Thanks for that guys. The lady might let it go for 3.5k (we're hoping). The case is in exceptional condition and I think with regulation and (better) tuning it will be nice.

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Post by Silverwood Pianos » 11 Mar 2012, 15:32

Barrie Heaton wrote:Buy it with a view that you are going to have it restored in the future when it is restored you will have an exceptional piano for a fraction of the cost of a new one Barrie
This is exactly what I did here when I found a 1979 Blüthner model 6 at an estate sale. This one has a Renner action instead of the Flemming.

The only problems I encountered were the original finish had too much catalyst in the poly so it cracked and crazed in long lines similar to pond ice in the winter. Easily removed and replaced with nitro lacquer.

The second problem was the tinned wire. This type of material does not do well in wet climates. Here in Vancouver, Canada a boreal rainforest, the wire crystallized and began to fracture.

Upon dismantle and re-assembly I could not find any significant design problems. In the DDR it was not the lack of expertise but mostly the lack of quality materials available at that particular time period.

When I stripped the cabinet I found a real wood base instead of MDF. Pin block material is the old style 3 ply laminate maple.
So I re-strung with Röslau and then HellerBass; re-finished in satin black, then brushed the finish with double zero steel wool.

Have a look;left click on any photo to enlarge. go forward or back using the arrows on either side of each frame.

https://picasaweb.google.com/1079905274 ... redirect=1

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Re: 1977 Bluthner Model 10, advice sought.

Post by joseph » 12 Mar 2012, 13:04

Dan, that Bluthner is looking good! Well done, I'd love to hear it. Can you post sound clips?

OP, 3.5 is a decent price for the piano, consider that a dealer would sell it for much much more, perhaps 10 or 11, however that would be serviced with some kind of warranty. Sold as seen I'd say that's about right.

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