I have an upright piano I was given some years ago.
It was used regularly until my parents bought us a very fancy digital piano.
The upright was already in need of tuning, but just before we got the new one the pedal on the right (the staccato pedal??!!) stopped working.
I cannot find any name or anything obvious to tell me who the manufacturer is. The only visible thing is an etching/engraving on the front behind the music stand of a large bunch of flowers or something like that.
How do I identify the piano? Where do I look?
Also, is it worth getting it repaired/tuned and trying to sell it, or are there piano's that are just not worth the effort of bothering with??!!
Any advice would be gratefully received, and I apologise to all those experts out there who cringe at my ignorance
Some people can't afford the space or money for a real piano so the digital option has to prevail and to say that "all they are good for is silent practice" is basically wrong. Is it a perfect replication? No! But then again it isn't trying to replace or stand in the place of a piano. It has many differences and some strengths over the piano. You can't really compare them despite their sharing the "piano" name. While similar, the digital piano is really a separate instrument as is the electronic organ from a airpowered pipe organ. However, when an acoustic hasn't been available or is out of tune or when the castors can't get over a bump in the corridor leading to a hall or room, musicians have been grateful when the digital piano arrives, speaking from personal experience.
The fact that in general a digital piano is cheaper, never needs tuned and one can use headphones are the things that most people take into consideration with a digital vs acoustic. There are many people who only have digital pianos to practise on and frankly it makes their playing sound choppy when they go onto a real piano. Must be the velocity switching.
I don't deny the advantages, being able to use midi, amplification in large venues without having to mic up (in a band situation) and of course silent practice. Also, with my CP300 I can take it around with me should the need arise. Yes, digitals are here to stay and for some good reasons.
I think that if someone is going to learn the piano, and they only have £1000 to spend on an instrument, they should probably look for a Challen or a Chappell or something, vetted by a piano tuner. It will be better for them in the long run.
To be frank, my personal point of view has little to do with it. Last time I checked the dictionary alternative does not mean or imply replacement; just another option depending on what you need, in this case from an instrument. For years, folks in townhalls, schools, church halls, old folks homes, etc have had to make use of a piano in climates that don't suit pianos but they have had to deal with it and spend money tuning them several times prior to their guest appearances on the stage before being shoved into a corner again until next time. The digital piano offers these people who don't need the full expressiveness and authenticity of touch provided by an acoustic. This is how I see "alternative" although I have never really seen an article or advertisement from any manufacturer that specifically says that a digital piano is an equivalent to a (acoustic) piano. If people play the instruments, they'll know themselves what the differences are. Quorn is an alternative to meat and while it isn't completely to my taste, it doesn't disqualify it from being to someone else's main preference owing to their taste, dietry requirements, etc. Yamaha's marketing is a case in point. They know that there are needs and preferences to all musicians in the music world and not all of them are piano teachers or concert pianists! One size fits all mentality inevitably leaves people out.joseph wrote:From your point of view, it may be true that they are not trying to be a replacement over an acoustic piano. However, the manufacturers of digital pianos - even Yamaha who make both - say that they are an alternative to an acoustic piano.
The point about the Challen for learning purposes is fine for learning provided that space is available and on the ground floor and for learning, starting with an acoustic is ideal and I've mentioned this on several occasions in the Learning forum.
What I am aiming at is the derogatory comment "plastic pianos" which is unfair to them. There are lots of successful musicians such as Lao Tizer, Jordan Ruddess, Frank Lucas to name a few who play on "plastic pianos" if you like and do it wonderfully. Granted this is in the more contemporary/jazz genre but sniping at the tools of someone else's artistry is no better than the ones who gripe about the pointlessness of classical piano training.
You'd be amazed... or maybe you wouldn't.
Wait before you rush to sell it. Regardless of what has been posted before, I would be reluctant to get rid of your acoustic piano as if you get playing seriously you will appreciate the tone and feel compared to the digital one.
Nothing posted before has really said otherwise but I am adding balance to the thread in saying that a digital piano is far from being a piece of excrement.Pianomate wrote:Regardless of what has been posted before, I would be reluctant to get rid of your acoustic piano...
Having said that, Hyperbabe5000, if the (acoustic) piano is in good shape then keep it. There is nothing like the real thing particularly if you are learning or studying music. Even if you are not, the expressiveness of the piano is definitely superior to digital although the top of the range models do come close but not enough to equate the feel and action of an acoustic piano. The acoustic will give you more years pleasure while the digital will probably provide another side of music playing that is not completely unworthwhile.
Yes, it's true that "alternative" doesn't mean replacement, but it does rather imply "instead of". It can even mean "mutually exclusive"
I thought my collection was excessive with 2 grands and a stage piano. Obviously not.
Artur Pizarro has a Steinway D, an Estonia concert grand, a Broadwood grand from 1850, a square piano, a harpsichord, a Gaveau upright, a Bechstein London baby grand, a Clavinova and if I am not mistaken he said a small Kawai digital piano. He likes pianos. A lot. I might have even missed a couple out.....
Blimey.Pianomate wrote:A pro pianist and teacher in town has a Broadwood Grand piano, Collard boudoir Grand, Kawai upright, Victorian Cottage upright, Regency square piano, Clavinova and Roland keyboard. Maybe you think that's a bit excessive but that's what she reckons she needs!
There are at least two of those I'd ditch, and they ain't the electrical ones!
The opinion above is purely that of PianoGuy and is simply the opinion of one person ....
If you're buying a piano, try as many as you can and buy the one you like, not a similar one of the same type.
She's clearly bonkers. I'll wager they're all shite apart from the clavinova if it's a high spec model.Pianomate wrote:A pro pianist and teacher in town has a Broadwood Grand piano, Collard boudoir Grand, Kawai upright, Victorian Cottage upright, Regency square piano, Clavinova and Roland keyboard. Maybe you think that's a bit excessive but that's what she reckons she needs!