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joe

Would stay way from the "grey imports"and Chinese pianos,should be able to get better deal on new Yamaha or Kawai k15 keep to the brands that are new and offer manufacturers warranties,better quality and better residuals if ever looking to upgrade.

joe

Diapason have a good reputation as a middle of the road Japanese piano but as they were never seriously distributed in the UK it would be difficult to advise. Originally the Hamamatsu Piano Co and now made by Kawai is all I know. Most piano sales in the Phillipines are grey market pianos of which m...

joe

well I know that these pianos can be absolutely beautiful, and I know that a restored patent action can be something quite special - even if its not as fast as the modern action - which can raise the question of musical aesthetics of course....... anyway... as well as the Bluthner, I have a fully f...

joe

Handy for playing the "Wedding March" right hand only.

joe

If money wasn't a problem, and I had to make the choice between an SU7 and a Kemble, I'd personally go for the SU7. If money was no object and I had to buy any upright of my own choosing, I'd pick a Steinway K or perhaps a Bosendorfer 130. Very much agree with above comments,but would go for say a ...

joe

To be honest I would seriously look at Bosendorfers before you buy. They are not in the same league on quality,durability,tonality,tuning stability and build quality,may be in the same price range,there as only been one Bosendorfer grand piano sale in the U.K in 18 months do you want me to continue.

joe

I agree with Sussex, Kemble first, Yamaha second! Kemble 132 not in the same league as Yamaha SU7 or price range SU7 made using the same materials as Yamaha concert grand,have played them and are good instruments but did find the top treble disappointing.Grotrian College model in price bracket and ...

joe

Be interesting to know if the Chinese and their wholesalers are keeping serial numbers,with so many retro brands appearing would suspect not.

joe

Does silent system compromise upright action? Yes unable to fine regulate piano for optinium performance,had a guy wanting to fit Gabor system to new Steinway model K thats a no no from me. Always have them factory fitted.

joe

Buy the K and Kawai ca51, silents are poor sellers.

joe

Denholm & Stevens,often seen on older modernised case pianos there is a Scottish connection,to my knowledge Denholm was the technician and Stevens the cabinet restorer and polisher,seen a few over the years mostly cottage style vertical strungs and some over overs,where never particularly good i...

joe

Get in touch with your local reputable tuner or retailer,photo make it 1920-1930 value is a reflection on its mechanical and strucural condition.

joe

Knight K6 school conversion.

joe

Seen similar pianos over the years and they where both made by Kawai a little later in the fifties.Bichord pianos are still available today would not think its of great value,but case decoration looks nicely done which may increase its value to the novelty hunter.

joe

Find out retail price when bought new,if tuned and maintained to a good standard take vat of rrp and then a third again should make it between £3500-£4000 at todays prices.Steinway do not have the discount policies employed by other wholesalers and are very active in dealer aftersales .Whether you c...

joe

joseph wrote:Hang the B, I'll take a D.

Why not split the difference and go for 2 "C"

joe

Buy the pianos whose personality you like,have played some Sauters and the newer ones are certainly better than the older ones,very difficult for some of the other quality German companies to break into the market controlled by the "big 4",if they where not trying to sell them at the same ...

joe

Mason and Hamlin grands are amongst the best,can hardly compare then to Estonia.Estonia price range should be entry level chinese instruments say between £5K to £10k not £12k plus.Strange KK thinks all pianos are not problem free,yeh a sticky note,a wandering unison,a broken string,a squeky pedal,th...

joe

If they are so good why no U K distributor,regards U S popularity the americans are very much taken by wanting to buy products which have European heritage good,bad or indifferent, pianos being a prime example.We export many old grands to the States because they pay top dollar for the junk we dont w...

joe

30 years of knowledge from the best in the business,because it makes profit occasionally does not make it a good piano, complaints are common place with the brand we know are asked to repair the odd one from time to time.Baldwin,Kimball etc are awful but if they make you money suppose we should read...

joe

Estonia is a quality product and they have done very well in re-inventing themselves since 1992. The person who started this thread may just be a dealer who probably cant get hold of quality makers like Estonia, Brodmann and such like. You often find they just prefer to slate them instead to try an...

joe

Look at the quality difference?,there are better chinese pianos on the market than steinmayers and for a few pounds more you can get the Samick pianos which are of a better build and tone quality,the Steinmayers in my opinion are the cheapest of the cheap.Get a decent Yamaha U1 preferably UK sold.

joe

C V is correct U1 and U3 10 years ago,other model a little later,if you have a P121 4 to 5 years ago.

joe

Cant speak for Gors&Kallman,but the Steinmayers need more than a good prepp and tune before dispatch,sold a couple, a day and a half to get right.3 tunings,every key required side sanding,rebush chasers periodically,easing of keys,reset front key rail,hammer refacing and full regulation,better w...

joe

Having been in his company a couple of times found him to be interesting and pleasant,and committed to what Steinmay pianos represents,ideal ambassador for the company.

joe

Could you submit image with top panel removed,pins look very rusty,but someone went to the bother of adding new dampers at some point keytops loose must have been in a damp environment at some point since been built,curious to see internals minus top panel please.

joe

We have a central water heating system. I know about the danger of air convection system under floorboards. I did not understand your question about Petrof. How it is connected with my problem? Petrof 116 http://www.petrof.cz/upright-piano-petrof-p-116-e1.html is a Czech instrument that totally ass...

joe

Seems a very good price for whats on offer.In my own experience small pianos dont sell in Asia they always want the largest piano no matter what space is available,we have many Asians customers who want the same no mattered what room dimensions,flights of stairs,access etc.The piano you buy is the p...

joe

Certianly not one for refurbishment, your £3.5k would be better spend on a decent new yamaha or kawai pianos,not a chinese piano at that budget,would never recon straight-strung with spring-loop action.

joe

Piano is around turn of the 19th century,is the piano of sentimental value to the family if so what restoration is going to be performed for £3.5k?,is it overstrung?,does it have a metal frame?,is it a tape -check action,why not take top panel off and send photo of internals,from my own point of vie...

joe

Would stay clear of the imported yamaha market,better to buy used pianos which where orginally supplied by yamaha bona-fide dealers in uk.U1 or U3 both are good sounding pianos when fully prepped,we have a u1 in polished mahogany we sold 7 years ago which looks and sound like new,had very little dom...

joe

What heating system does your home have?,if its hot air convection system under floorboards piano will never settle.I was under the impression that a Petrof 116 and Bechstein 116 are the same instrument apart from cabinet design,please correct me if am wrong.Have a 1933 burr walnut Steinway Model A ...

joe

Fail to understand the piano playing publics fascination with Bechstein pianos,have played many at various trade events and quite frankly they are awful,toneless,action irregularities and not worth the money.It must be snobbery of people thinking they are buying a slice of history,and complaints are...

joe

Have to agree with Longbow, old boy! Rules is rules, and them's the rules!! ;-) Like MPs there are Rules and there is bending the rules to suite for financial gain, if a shop hides behind a alias and then keeps pushing that shop as if they have no connection. That is taking advantage of the forum a...

joe

Exhausted!!.phew,121,123,125,128,132,thats a lot of models to stock of the same brand,why so many height variations,are the frame sizes all different for each model ?.

joe

Up in the north we find pianos go sharp due to cold and dampness and flat when there is excess heat around ,very much down to how good instruments is,and where its located in house,near a bathroom,outside wall,front door are not ideal placements.Schindler must be a nice piano to play "Liszt&quo...

joe

The cheap way to mute sound is a thick pile carpet attached to the back-cloth area or soundboard of piano seems to work without getting tied up in the science of sound-proofing.

joe

£8,499 is the list price.

joe

PianoGuy wrote:£7k list for a new GM10 is seriously good vfm. Good to see that Kawai are keeping the price of their Indonesian built pianos sensible as opposed to Yam who are pricing them as though they were affected by the strong ¥.

Is £6k not even better value for money or am i missing something?

joe

If down to biggest mark-up why dont we sell chinese brands new they make you more than Kawai and Yamaha,its choice and quality that counts in our book not looking to sell a Steimayer,Weber pianos dont rate them and they are overpriced find your postins wayward must be the fresh air up in the north.W...

joe

Buying locally is not always possible because most dealers usually stock the brand which makes them the most money not the ones which gives the customer the best value,and very few have a display which gives the customer a choice of the quality brands.The dealer network is partly controlled by the &...

joe

The OP is asking the question on an international forum and quoting the price so they are looking for advice outside their local area,there are plenty tuner/techs who are able to offer solutions to the problems you are creating before they have even purchased piano "negativity".People are ...

joe

Mature reply,come back on and lets talk pianos,what you sell,whats good value for money,your submitting to a public forum let share in your knowledge and expertise or will you need to ask your daddy what your are allowed to say?

joe

Dont think they have business problems and are able to offer full kawai manufacturers warranties,they have a huge stock,30 grand pianos on display, they are known for impartial no nonsense advice and competitve pricing on quality brands.Try add to tread with positive comments instead of your usual t...

joe

Kawai GM10 is the best 5 footer grand in its price range,tonally pleasing,nice touch,and a delight to play.Would go new as the used yamaha and kawai grand market is full of "grey imports",go cheaper and its dodgy chinese grand with poor actions,go more expensive and you will get better qua...

joe

How much are the items?

joe

Its generous of cv to offer the OP free advice never know may px for a SU7 or B________N 125,for many yeasrs we have been called to peoples homes for a fee of course who did not buy pianos from our firm , to prepp and tune new pianos, we never felt we where treading on other dealers toes,as there ar...

joe

A point which may have been overlooked regards Bechstein piano, have you had the "hitch pins" checked at the bottom bridges to see if there is any slippage.if you loosen strings and tap down pins to be sure they are sitting at the right angles,would never advise loosening pressure bar that...

joe

You are passing your opinions on what you think is good value and i am giving mine,dont need self promoting we are known throughout the UK,for offering the public and the trade good value for money and honest advice,because my views are different from yours does not make yours right and mine wrong,i...

joe

Kawai k6 is an awesome piano for the price,sound more european than many high-end "Made in Germany"instruments.Yamaha SU7 is also nice to play but the top treble lets it down,Bluthner Model B was in my opinion the best upright 6 years ago tried some new ones not impressed.You do find the p...

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