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- by Bill Kibby
- 09 Jan 2004, 16:38
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Challen Piano by Royal Appointment
- Replies: 3
- Views: 11244
Challen
I don't quite know what Bluthner's got to do with it Barrie, it's a Challen! The Royal Appointment is not for that particular individual piano, it was awarded to the makers, and I believe in this instance it was the King of Spain. The number suggests 1932. Press www below, then press Archives. Datem...
- by Bill Kibby
- 08 Jan 2004, 09:07
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: any info on my piano?? Schonebeck Berlin
- Replies: 1
- Views: 7250
Schonenbecke
I can tell you that Sharples first appears in my lists from the early 1900s, and Reinhardt, Berlin made pianos around 1903. If I find out any more, I'll get back to you, otherwise press www below.
- by Bill Kibby
- 06 Jan 2004, 21:53
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Piano History
- Replies: 1
- Views: 4607
Tipper
Is it a big tipper? Press www below, then press Archives.
- by Bill Kibby
- 05 Jan 2004, 23:38
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Age - John Brinsmead & Sons piano
- Replies: 1
- Views: 5252
Brinsmead
The number suggests 1909, which fits in with the date on the medal. I can quote to supply printed general information on the firm, but it is currently being revised and extended. They became limited around 1895, but such name changes are rarely instnant or all-consuming.
- by Bill Kibby
- 04 Jan 2004, 12:31
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: R Nunns & Clark Piano
- Replies: 3
- Views: 5253
Nunns & Clark
Yes, I am sure I can help to some extent, although early serial numbers can be misleading anyway. Press www below, or email me.
- by Bill Kibby
- 31 Dec 2003, 19:06
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: WE Wheelock
- Replies: 2
- Views: 7206
Wheelock
The number suggests 1900.
- by Bill Kibby
- 30 Dec 2003, 15:17
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Carlisle Chicago & Muskegon
- Replies: 7
- Views: 11734
Carlisle
The number suggests 1918, but very little is published about Carlisle. Strangely, their numbers cover the period around 1911, when Alfred Dolge doesn't list them as makers.
- by Bill Kibby
- 29 Dec 2003, 21:11
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Crane and Son Ltd
- Replies: 1
- Views: 6789
Crane
Press www below, then press the Valuation button, or read the item at the top of the forum.
- by Bill Kibby
- 29 Dec 2003, 21:08
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Czerny Piano
- Replies: 9
- Views: 11879
Czerny
Most pianos are mass-produced with the same name, so we would need a bit more information to try to date it. Click on www below, and press some buttons.
- by Bill Kibby
- 27 Dec 2003, 20:05
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Shenstone & Co. Ltd.
- Replies: 12
- Views: 17696
Shenstone
Shenstones, established in 1870, were unable to help me with any piano information when I spoke to them in the 1970s. By then, they were just a television shop in Leytonstone, and seemed unaware of the existence of any archive information, although some is listed in the National Register of Archives...
- by Bill Kibby
- 27 Dec 2003, 11:44
- Forum: Piano Advice
- Topic: broadwood semigrand date 1839
- Replies: 3
- Views: 9266
Broadwood
You say "dated", do you mean that it actually has the date 1839 on it? I would have thought about 1842 for that number. Your tuner will be the person to advise you about the loose pins, and the normal method is a a larger pin. As for valuation, see my notes below, and Barrie's at the top o...
- by Bill Kibby
- 26 Dec 2003, 13:43
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: History of the Piano
- Replies: 3
- Views: 10936
Invention of the piano
Yes, his "Arpicembalo" was listed among the instruments in 1698, it is believed to have had hammers, dampers and expressive touch, but was perhaps different in some way.
- by Bill Kibby
- 26 Dec 2003, 11:54
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: History of the Piano
- Replies: 3
- Views: 10936
Invention of the piano
Phew! There is no short answer to all those questions, but yes, Cristofori did invent the "gravicembalo (harpsichord) col piano e forte" around 1707, and it was first documented in 1709. You say "so many different stories" so I presume you are talking about all the rubbish on the...
- by Bill Kibby
- 15 Dec 2003, 23:34
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Ernst Kaps baby grand
- Replies: 4
- Views: 14668
Kaps
I didn't mean you got the the number wrong, it's just not a reliable way of dating the piano. Why not email me, or send some photos.
- by Bill Kibby
- 15 Dec 2003, 18:32
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Hemme & Long upright piano
- Replies: 5
- Views: 8976
Hemme & Long
It's a UK site, why would they be listed? As it is, I deal with over twenty thousand piano names, and it would be impossible to list them all on the net, most piano names are not available on any site. The number suggests 1889, and they didn't stop then.
- by Bill Kibby
- 15 Dec 2003, 18:26
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Ernst Kaps baby grand
- Replies: 4
- Views: 14668
Kaps
The name is Kaps, and the published numbers can be misleading, as indeed can most numbers. Look at the Numbers item at pianogen.org for general information. I could tell you more from photos, but you need an on-the-spot inspection by a tuner-technician, ideally one who is interested in antique instr...
- by Bill Kibby
- 14 Dec 2003, 10:56
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: heinr. Maliwanek, vien(serial#2428)
- Replies: 2
- Views: 5795
Maliwanek
No serial number dates are available for this maker, indeed I haven't seen any information at all in the usual textbooks. Press www below, and press some buttons on my site for general information. You could email photos, but no specific information is available about Maliwanek.
- by Bill Kibby
- 14 Dec 2003, 00:50
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: age of upright John Spencer No.16 13262
- Replies: 1
- Views: 5700
Spencer
The published numbers are wrong, and I estimate 1889. If the action is narked Brooks Ltd. on the rear of the hammer rail, they became Ltd. around 1891.
- by Bill Kibby
- 10 Dec 2003, 12:22
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Crane & Sons, Ltd. Upright May 1886
- Replies: 4
- Views: 10580
Crane
I think I wrote to you before? This is not the date of the piano, it was a medal awarded to the firm at the exhibition. Press www below, and press some of my buttons!
- by Bill Kibby
- 09 Dec 2003, 22:53
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Sprecher & Comp.
- Replies: 9
- Views: 16375
Sprecher
I've seen the name sometimes, but I don't know anything useful about them. Surpisingly enough, it means "Prize medal awarded for general excellence, London 1862"! That was the London Exhibition which followed the Great Exhibition. They received the medal, and the piano is after that year. ...
- by Bill Kibby
- 09 Dec 2003, 11:47
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: T. G. Payne piano.
- Replies: 7
- Views: 20770
Payne & Pain
Yes, but unfortunately, being more into pianos than computers, there is so much unnecessary junk on the screen most of the time, I don't know what half of it is, and life forunately provides more exciting challenges than pressing every button on every website to see what it does! Explanations, when ...
- by Bill Kibby
- 08 Dec 2003, 11:51
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: T. G. Payne piano.
- Replies: 7
- Views: 20770
Payne
Type pianohistory.info in the address bar, and you'll find my website. Press ALL the buttons, especially datemarks, and these may help. If you send photos, these will also help, but there is no guarantee of finding a precise date.
- by Bill Kibby
- 07 Dec 2003, 15:05
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Sandon & Steedman
- Replies: 1
- Views: 5994
Sandon
In 1886, Sandon & Steedman were at 35 Drummond Street NW & Chalton Street, Somers Town NW. Smoothy was not listed then, but was by 1899. Oddly enough, S&S weren't then!
- by Bill Kibby
- 07 Dec 2003, 01:58
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Thalberg Upright 85 key piano
- Replies: 6
- Views: 14851
Thalberg
Have you pressed the Aliases button on the PianoGen website? It explains some of the most common processes.
- by Bill Kibby
- 06 Dec 2003, 14:20
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Thalberg Upright 85 key piano
- Replies: 6
- Views: 14851
Thalberg
I'm intrigues! Technically, an "antique" would be earlier than a player piano. It would be nice to see the photos. which you can email to the PianoGen website.
- by Bill Kibby
- 06 Dec 2003, 00:44
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Eduard Hilger
- Replies: 9
- Views: 14553
Hilger
I can tell you that he was around in 1911 and 1928, but I have no useful information on him yet.
- by Bill Kibby
- 05 Dec 2003, 13:31
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: T.G.Payne-London
- Replies: 4
- Views: 14017
Payne
This particular Payne, T.& G. Payne, was established in London, 1892, not 1891. Circa 1906, They became a limited company. By the thirties, they had moved to Kentish Town.
- by Bill Kibby
- 05 Dec 2003, 13:29
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: T. G. Payne piano.
- Replies: 7
- Views: 20770
Payne
This particular Payne, T.& G. Payne, was established in London, 1892. Circa 1906, They became a limited company. By the thirties, they had moved to Kentish Town.
- by Bill Kibby
- 05 Dec 2003, 13:24
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: The Cable Company Style 5
- Replies: 1
- Views: 4962
Cable
This being the UK piano site, it's hardly surprising that we are not well-versed in american pianos, so we can only quote what there is in reference books, and nothing is available about the styles or models.
- by Bill Kibby
- 05 Dec 2003, 00:03
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Hickies!
- Replies: 2
- Views: 5866
Hickie
I take you are not the lady who just phoned me, or her brother who emailed about Hickie? In 1886, they were Hickie & Son. From at least 1894 Hickie & Hickie. By 1936 Hickie & Hickie Ltd. Still there 1951, so you can see that the name doesn't help. Circa 1920 Piano #13,234 bears the name ...
- by Bill Kibby
- 03 Dec 2003, 14:39
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: demise of upright grand pianos in 19th century
- Replies: 7
- Views: 15748
Upright Grand?
Yes, but are you talking about an actual grand turned vertically, or simply an average old upright with "Upright Grand" written on the front?
- by Bill Kibby
- 03 Dec 2003, 00:37
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: T.G.Payne-London
- Replies: 4
- Views: 14017
Payne
I probably have more on Payne than anyone else, but I don't post all my work on the net for free!
- by Bill Kibby
- 02 Dec 2003, 23:03
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: demise of upright grand pianos in 19th century
- Replies: 7
- Views: 15748
Archives
I was quoted 40 pounds. A book is in preparation. As for Clementi, look at the Archives item at PianoGen.org - This tells the situation with Clementi's successors, Collard.
- by Bill Kibby
- 01 Dec 2003, 12:41
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Steck piano - date?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 11698
Steck
Put simply, if it is George Steck, the numbers don't help. Otherwise, there are still major problems between the Hayes and Gotha factories, do you know where it was built? These numbers don't match any I have.
- by Bill Kibby
- 01 Dec 2003, 00:46
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Steck piano - date?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 11698
Steck
Julian Dyer has written an article somewhere on the net about the many problems with the published numbers for Steck, and I have said repeatedly that numbers in general are often misleading. Press the numbers button on the PianoGen site. The frame was cast in 1929, the piano completed up to 6 years ...
- by Bill Kibby
- 01 Dec 2003, 00:43
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: fortepiano / pianoforte
- Replies: 1
- Views: 6927
Fortepiano
Briefly, Cristofori's first pianos were known as "gravicembalo col piano e forte" - literally harpsichord with (roughly speaking) soft and loud. They were never harpsichords, except in exterior appearance. After his death, piano making only survived through the efforts of the german "...
- by Bill Kibby
- 30 Nov 2003, 11:23
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Please help me research my antique Viennese piano
- Replies: 1
- Views: 5928
Zaftaupil
Unfortunately, I have been unable to find anyone who does with viennese pianos what I do with british ones, and unless the textbooks list a firm, I have no funds for nipping over to Austria to do research! Photos can tell me a lot about the instrument, but very little about the maker.
- by Bill Kibby
- 29 Nov 2003, 13:10
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Kirkman of London Piano
- Replies: 1
- Views: 8161
Kirkman
I am a piano historian, I can certainly help you with historical infiormation about the Kirkman firm, or compile a report from photos of the piano, but VALUATION IS IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT ON-THE-SPOT INSPECTION!!
- by Bill Kibby
- 28 Nov 2003, 23:59
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Neumeyer
- Replies: 9
- Views: 20918
Neumeyer
When you say he'd never seen anything like it, in what way? Was it a Quadruplex? (Triple Overstringing.) There seem to have been 4 firms called Neumeyer, I have seen pianos and information around 1882-1920, and I could tell you more from photos, via the PianoGen website.
- by Bill Kibby
- 28 Nov 2003, 12:08
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: JW Butcher - 27342
- Replies: 10
- Views: 17738
Butcher
If it costs you very little, why not go for it! You'd have to drill two hundred holes precisely in the right places, at precisely the right angles, and then it still needs restringing though, and a professional will still charge the same, because he is doing the same work as he would with the old pl...
- by Bill Kibby
- 27 Nov 2003, 17:02
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: JW Butcher - 27342
- Replies: 10
- Views: 17738
Butcher
Yes, I'm afraid that's what usually signals the end of a piano, when it needs repinning and restringing. Central heating is often a major factor, but age comes into it too, and the quality of the original plank.
- by Bill Kibby
- 27 Nov 2003, 17:00
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: demise of upright grand pianos in 19th century
- Replies: 7
- Views: 15748
Clementi
I'm afraid Brian's lost the plot here, this is a genuine, actual, real-life Upright Grand, (a grand placed upright) as made by Clementi, probably in the 1820s or 1830s. Why did they lose popularity? How would you like to have a nine-foot tall piano? It's as simple as that, and the height became unne...
- by Bill Kibby
- 25 Nov 2003, 10:57
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: JW Butcher - 27342
- Replies: 10
- Views: 17738
Butcher
Kembles didn't exist then. A couple of loose pins shouldn't be used as an excuse to have the pitvh so low, just replace the pins! I could tell you more from photos, and I presume you have checked for datemarks, key and action makers' marks etc.?
- by Bill Kibby
- 24 Nov 2003, 18:49
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Warwick-London. piano history
- Replies: 1
- Views: 8069
Warwick
Warwick piano 13,900 was thought to be around 1920, Wagstaffs sold them, and this is probably an alias for a piano made by a wholesaler. See the Aliases button on the PianoGen.
- by Bill Kibby
- 24 Nov 2003, 18:46
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Upright Barratt & Robinson piano
- Replies: 6
- Views: 16859
Barratt & Robinson
As Barrie says, most pianos are mass-produced, but I am sitting next to one which may be the only surviving example by its maker, but that doesn't give it value, I saved it from the crematorium! I can compile a report from photos via the PianoGen website.
- by Bill Kibby
- 24 Nov 2003, 13:37
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Thalberg Upright 85 key piano
- Replies: 6
- Views: 14851
Thalberg
I don't have anything ready on computer about Thalberg, it may be an alias. Can you tell me any more? You can email photos to me, or go to the PianoGen website and press some buttons.
- by Bill Kibby
- 24 Nov 2003, 13:33
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Erard Piano France
- Replies: 3
- Views: 10570
Erard
Thanks. The fact that it is rosewood and straight-strung doesn't help much, I would need detailed photos to compile a report. I would have thought that it would be a fairly advanced action by 1902.
- by Bill Kibby
- 24 Nov 2003, 12:57
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: A.Taylor & Son
- Replies: 3
- Views: 11416
A.Taylor & Son
A. Taylor was established in 1890, and was Taylor & Son by 1914. They were a limited company by 1922.
- by Bill Kibby
- 24 Nov 2003, 12:52
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Upright Barratt & Robinson piano
- Replies: 6
- Views: 16859
Barratt & Robinson
When you say "I am not certain what it is exactly", what exactly? Patent details can be researched by quoting the number to the Patent Office, but it may not help you learn any more about your piano.
- by Bill Kibby
- 24 Nov 2003, 12:49
- Forum: Piano History
- Topic: Normelle
- Replies: 3
- Views: 8486
Normelle
My uncle had a Normelle piano which he was told was made in France, but despite suggestions that they are french or italian, these are definitely british pianos, made by Spencer- Murdoch, London. Many were sold by Barnes, London. The published numbers for Murdoch are unreliable, but they can often b...
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