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Manufacturers do not publish dates for electronic pianos as they only tend to support spare parts for seven years. If you want more information, you could contact Yamaha at Milton Keynes. They may be able to cross-reference the serial number. They keep a list of numbers for warranty purposes. Barrie

The only wood you've got to worry about is Brazilian rosewood; then you need a certificate failure to have a certificate when you sell it. it will be a £25,000 fine. If it's solid Ivory, you can't sell it in the UK. Pianos, come onto the 10% rule you need a certificate if you selling a piano with Iv...

It's a Bentley circa 1957

Barrie

What make of action is it? Take the front panel off and photograph the action

It will cover both because there are quite a few woods now on the restricted list.
That's the bit that interests me because I'm clued up on ivory

It's open to all.

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The regulating specs are the same as the U1. However, (sadly there's always one of them in life). Regulating specifications are guidelines for new Pianos if your piano has had a lot of playing, and say the hammers have been re-faced. Then the book goes out of the window. All down to Hammer Key ratio...

Your best bet is to strip it with a paint stripper, including the edge but mask off the underneath. Re-stain and respray.

Barrie

Some have a Central clip under the keyboard push-up, and others have them at the ends
the door pulls to you.

I will go for the service/regulation and see how much that improves it, if you're not happy, then save up and go for the reconditioning. Depending on who you talk to in the UK, some shops are doing quite well selling new Pianos. For me, this year new Kawais are the top ones asked to do after-care vi...

Replacing items that need replacing is a recondition action A rebuild is completely different. Most pianos don't warrant the cost of a rebuild it's better to buy a new piano.

If your tuner believes the piano is in good condition, then regulation should make a difference.

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If a tuner offered you that much money for a 1905 un-reconditioned piano I would take his money and run for the hills.

1905 un reconditioned Steinway uprights don't even get that sort of cash

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Only a rebuild will guarantee that, and that is: A full set of new hammers, shanks, rollers and flanges, A full set of new bottom sections All keys rebushed Balance pins and front touch pins polished and re-felted, the back felt done. Balance pinholes resized. A brand-new action, the hammers would h...

Only a technician can tell you that one, whether it needs doing or not. Probably after 40 years, it may need some parts replaced. But without inspecting the piano very difficult to say I've been to Pianos which are over 100 years old and they're in immaculate condition, and I've been to Pianos which...

Boston's are designed by Steinway but made by Kawai, I also heard that production had moved from Japan to Indonesia, but I'm not 100% sure about that. However, the quality coming out of Kawai, Indonesia is very good the K 300 is both made in Indonesia and Japan, we get both of them in the UK, and it...

Hi Thanks for your replies / having a local tuner do a report on it for us today, do you think it could be "Made in England" or could this be some false "Marketing" by the original manufactuerer ? Thanks stencil Pianos were very common in the 1900s even today I can buy a piano f...

Difficult to translate into $ as technicians in the United Kingdom what different rates and technicians in the US.

I did the Boston grand on Tuesday full-service took me 7 hours the cost was £400

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What you need is a full service if you've never had it done before; most manufacturers recommend at least 5 to 7 years on a reasonably played piano. Depending on the state of the piano, it takes between two and eight hours. Your hammers probably need refaceing, and if the hammers are refaced, the pi...

You could say it is a collector's piece however, the trick is finding a collector who wants it will need a lot of work.

Trade will ask you for money to take it away you can go on Facebook and ask Bill Kibby if he's interested or do a PM off this site.

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The company was established in 1845 in Dresden
Serial number 32538 c 1902 ish 30000 = 1900 and 39000 = 1905

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Looks like it was modified in the fifties to make it look more modern, and they probably removed the serial number .

Take a look at the bottom a key may have a number or a date on it
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Quality control will check the piano before it was packed sometimes; the idiot who packs them is clueless; the piano goes on a containership, then arrives in Europe, goes to a warehouse, is unpacked and checked again. Then sent to the retailer, or Direct to the end user I know that some retailers ha...

With that amount of marks, I can understand the dealer wanting to take it back and give you another one. Fixing them on-site can be a pain, and you don't always get a flawless finish. Better to bring it back to the workshop, you can take your time and then sell the piano as a used one Also, claim th...

Hi Andy, In general, make is irrelevant when it comes to secondhand pianos it's how the piano has been looked after. Chipboard and MDF is not uncommon on Pianos from the 70s onwards, even on expensive brands. I would recommend you get a local tuner to do an inspection, they can advise you whether it...

Knights are a good make however, like anything secondhand, it's how it's been looked after that counts rather than the make.

A common problem with k10 and k20s are the bass strings going dull.

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The most common problems with sluggish notes are: Damp, foreign bodies and worn-out action. most can be solved by good service. A service takes between two and eight hours, depending on whether it's a grand or a upright and how long ago it was last serviced. In the United Kingdom at the moment, a lo...

I have a few on my round all grand's, they're all very very nice.

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Same as my last post, but on this one, you buying it privately, so you've no come back.

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It's a straight strong, under-damper with fork Hammers, and the dampers have Vellum hinges. if this piano has an untouched original action, it will be a money pit for you. I've restored a few of these over the years, and they're a nightmare. The hammers have to be recovered, not replaced. The damper...

the shop in Birmingham, Forty & Co. Ltd. Pianos. 80-83, New Street, Birmingham.

Your piano is listed in Pierce as a maker, but no other info.
it's about c1900 if you can get the case parts off and take out the Bottom A key it may have been dated by the action finisher.

Bil may have an entry in his Collection of London directories.

Barrie

At least it was the derelict school not the new one

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Take the bolt to Screwfix to see if they have one in stock.

Barrie

Enjoy and look after it. Once it's settled in, you'll have to post a couple of songs you've played on it.

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2 when I lift some of the keys they don’t all drop freely back to their level position and have to be pushed back down. But they all play freely when depressed in normal use Is that a problem that really needs fixing and if so is it a simple fix in most cases Other than these issues it is in immacu...

Paul, it's not an uncommon problem with Pianos that come from showrooms it's not an issue to worry about it's fixable. The piano was probably never prepped at the original retailers. After five years, Pianos need to be serviced, and they are best serviced on-site at your house, not at the shop. Part...

keys that don’t drop are caused by friction, either in the balance rail bushing or the balance pin hole or both. If the room it is going into is dryer than the shop, the keys may rectify themselves, if the room is damper the problem will get worse. (sticking keys ) I'll give it six months then have ...

The Kawai GL30 should have a nicer base and mid-range, which is great for jazz, but the Yamaha probably has better top trouble.

I do have a lot of all three models on my round, but I do like the Kawai GL30 over the Yamaha C1

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In normal practice, you will get a piano tuner to go and look at the piano, if you look between the strings at the top treble, you can see the hammers, and see if they got any very deep cuts.

Barrie

go for it and enjoy.

is the humidity regulator a piano lifesaver by any chance if so nice,

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Because you are buying from a retailer, the piano has to be fit for purpose; see what extras they will throw in like free delivery, a stool and free tuning in your home four weeks after delivery, also, insist it's tuned to concert pitch by the visiting tuner. You'll be surprised how many tuners on a...

Yes, the GBK1 is a better, improved scaling tweaks. As to the tuning issues, the GA1 has bass string issues, mainly faults, and they do go dull after 10 years this makes it difficult for tuners who use electronic tuning devices, who use an ETD to tune the bass. Also, older GB1s have bass problems if...

#70248 c1892 if it was made in Paris, Erard opened a factory in London in c1855
and closed in c1890
Also, read.
https://www.piano-tuners.org/piano-foru ... ords=Erard+

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See
https://www.piano-tuners.org/piano-foru ... rds=BISHOP

They were established in 1839, going off its legs, I would say around 1900 in Bills notes at the back of the piano musicians Atlas he has serial number 2588 = c1927

A few people convert them into cocktail cabinets or writing desks, and some into digital pianos.

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They were established in 1829 and were taken over by Kembles in 1960 no serial numbers were published up to 1960 your piano looks like the 1900s, going off its legs Photo with the case parts off would help. The bottom A key might also be dated if you take out the bottom A key. If it's a Herberger Br...

if you do a search on the site, there's been quite a lot written about Barnes https://www.piano-tuners.org/piano-forums/search.php?keywords=w+H+Barnes they were established in 1826, Serial numbers beginning with 34 are early1930s later 1937 = 45860 according to Pierce. If you can take out the bottom...

It seems that around 1700 ivory was used for key covering at times. Many and varied materials have been used for this purpose, including bone, mother-of-pearl, porcelain, tortoise-shell, silver, boxwood, cedar, ebony, pear and other rare and polished woods. At times the fronts of the naturals were b...

Have two clients who have the K3TX both of them absolutely love them, one does a lot of recording so needs the midi in and out, second, she found the touch a bit offputting at first, but she's now got used to it. As a comparison, you do need to try the K3 and the tx as the touch is different because...

Long time since I've had a cold and a head cold that I had to cancel today's tunings also, tomorrow's tunings. Unfortunately, I've got to prep a piano on Wednesday morning for a concert in Preston.

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