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PianoGuy

ANYBODY CAN SELL A NEW PIANO HOW MANY CAN RESTORE AND SELL AN USED ONE. Indeed. And there's your problem. So few dealers are able to rebuild older pianos to their full potential, it's safer to recommend new. Also, many people have been put off reconditioned instruments by the experience of buying a...

PianoGuy

In an attempt to be fair, I'd like to think that extensive preparation could transform that particular instrument into a good piano. However perhaps other UK dealers have witnessed similar stories with this brand, resulting in refusal to carry them. Comments? Thereby hangs the problem. Few dealers ...

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piano heads wrote:ABOUT HE RIGHT PRICE FOR A NEW ONE HEARD THERE IN RECIEVERSHIP,ANYMORE SOCIAL NETWORKING AND I HAVE TO GO OR A PINT.

Jeepers!

Brodmann are *not* in receivership, their UK distributor is.

Brodmann must therefore still be available one way or another.

PianoGuy

Not to my knowledge just had 2 delivered the other week,a cabinet grand for the lounge and an upright for the music room,best german built piano available on todays market none of these rehashed famous names of the past made by third parties in third world countries Very nice, but German pianos are...

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In my village, there are at least 9 traditional pianos and only one was purchased from new, though many years ago when the owner was in their twenties (now in 70s). None of them are newer than 1956, and three of them are Victorian. We have one piano teacher, three adult pianists, two children learn...

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I'm well aware that Kemble pianos are basically Yamahas, but with the different soundboard and the different hammer head, the sound is much better and more musical, to my ears anyway. Each to their own. All pianos built at Milton Keynes in the Kemble factory use identically sourced soundboards whet...

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It's 35 years old then!!

£850 to £900 delivered, tuned and guaranteed.

The dealer would still be doing OK out of it.

PianoGuy

It's a strong dealer price. For that money I would expect to be buying from a VAT registered high-street dealer of good reputation, not a trading-estate part timer. I would also expect: A five year warranty Delivery First tuning As for the piano, I would expect it to be a MINTER of a late model Bent...

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Kemble King wrote:£1500 on an upright is a pretty low budget. I think the main problem here is that the customer is skint. So no point sending brochures out boys.

I always refuse to sell to DSS

That's a bit rude now, KK.

PianoGuy

joseph wrote:It sounds to me like vernon, pianoguy, a440, etc are all reputable and will provide you with a good instrument at a sensible price, with great backup.

Not me!

I don't sell pianos, just tune 'em and sort out their problems!

PianoGuy

Just a thought ModelV....

Why not approach said dealer and explain that you're thinking of buying a grand of some considerable value in the near future, and ask if he can sell you an upright in the meantime which would be 100% redeemable against purchase price?

PianoGuy

Wa HAY! I *love* a good argument!! Firstly ModelV: I would concentrate on looking for a good 1970s to 1990s piano if you don't want to keep your Yam. Something British like a Welmar, Knight, Chappell, Kemble would do, but take advice on the vintage. Make sure it's fitted with either a Schwander or L...

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Word Openwood, bro!

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But I thought that everyone thought that Yamaha's were the best thing since sliced bread? Sounds like a Steinway would urinate all over it and both priced the same as well. Even Yamaha make a few duffers: The GH1, GP1, GA1 were all very iffy, and strangely the S4 is wonderful sounding but really wo...

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A perfectly tuned and regulated S4 sounds and plays like it was made in Heaven, the Limited Edition S400 even more so, but yes, sadly they stay in that state for anything from a nanosecond to thirty five minutes.

Stability is crap.

PianoGuy

A decent upright for under 2k brand new is certainly not to be sniffed at!

PianoGuy

There's nothing wrong with Chinese built pianos in general, but there *are* certainly some foul pianos around and many of them are built in China! You don't say which model of Steinmayer you are looking at, but before you buy, try pianos from Brodmann, Perzina (Gehr.Steinberg, Sangler, Eavestaff, Ge...

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Orange is stretching a point a bit.... The sharps are wood coloured and the naturals are ebonised, and yes, it's triangular (almost) and the keyboard is at a slant if you put the long side against a wall.

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I have too. Made in the Welmar factory by the eponymous W.DeBlaise.... Never seen without a Capstan Full-Strength hanging out his gob. His Harpsichords are near-worthless but great fun. No matter what you play on them it all comes out sounding like the theme to Randall and Hopkirk (deceased). They a...

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Yamaha's first instrument in 1885 was a portable reed organ of the type popular with missionaries, and of course they built millions of 'home organs' badged as "Electones" from the '60s up to really quite recently, but I'm guessing these are not what you had in mind!?

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Agreed with above. If it's in good nick, £1200 is a steal, and it'll beat the K2 in every area.

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They're very good.

If you like it and the price is good go for it.

What is the price?

PianoGuy

OK: Horrible ones: GA1, GH1B, GP1. These are all small grands, sub C1 size, and had really bad patches in the scaling. Avoid all unless on Freecycle. Thankfully no longer in production and supplanted by the GB1 which is not too bad at all. Quirkily odd ones: S4, S400. Handbuilt. S400 limited (thank ...

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My Uncle James at Edinburgh Piano Company has got loads of Brodmann's in his store all boxed. We also have heaps in the shop. No Uk importer is not true!!! As for Wendl they are the heavy weight of the top end Chinese-Vienna market really. Is your uncle importing Brodmann then? Brodmann UK under th...

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A '79 Bentley will certainly have the dreadful polypropylene-rich "Richard Harley" action although one of that vintage may simply be labelled "Bentley Check Action" (which I've always considered to be an instruction rather than a branding) which is notorious for unreliability as ...

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The fraudster also appears to be called "laddbrookes" (obviously trying to trade on an existing defunct piano company name) as well as "chelseadollshouseantiques".

He should be stopped before he hurts someone.

PianoGuy

What with rent/mortgage, UBR, power, wages, advertising to pay for, and all for a profit of a day's work for most good piano tuners or less on a b1! I'm mighty glad I'm not in the retail trade, I'd be trading the Lambo down to a Smart For-Two before you can say "Jack Johnson". Good luck t...

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As for Yamaha trained staff will we be saying that the CFIIIS Grand is really a Boesendorfer Grand in a few years as they are over there teaching Yamaha staff how they do things. :roll: God I hope not! A CF111s is a far better piano than most Bosies. ( on average, we sell about 400 NEW Yamaha uprig...

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Glynn, I'm Chris not Terry, - or should I call you Austin, Mr Morris? I haven't seen any Yamahas of that age DESTINED TO BE SOLD NEW IN EUROPE which need new bass strings. I have a 20 year old C7 grand in the floor, original strings and not a dead note anywhere. I think that only applies to those s...

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Why is Terry Venables trying to brainwash ourselves into thinking that Yamaha is the only piano maker? Terry have you ever heard of Steinway, Bluthner, Bechstein, Kawai etc etc? Also if Yamaha is so good...why do all the bass strings need replacing after 20 years of use.It doesnt happen with Kawai,...

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Glynn Morris wrote: I have tuned many Kembles and Yamaha's. I believe the Kemble to be far superior and better finished than most Yamaha's. [/size] - Really? Isn't every Kemble upright made with a Yamaha iron frame, Yamaha action components and keys, made by Yamaha machines, overseen by Yamaha trai...

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Just been to see my friend in my local music shop and spied a "Bentley" grand in the window. Just out of the shrink wrap. Intrigued I had a little play and was impressed - very nice tone and touch although, as it's short, not too much bass. I was amazed to learn this will retail for £4000...

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Have a look out in the wide world at other makes apart from the jingly jangly Yamahas. Every one of them is like the last sausage off a string. Try everything and take what you like. Be aware that even on a Forum such as this there are interested parties and several loonies Kaspack friznit fawwwaaa...

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The *only* safe way to buy a piano online: 1) Look for the make and model that you want and find it at the best discount. 2) Pay for it on a credit card 3) Email dealer to state that you want delivery delayed until you've inspected it. 4) Arrange to see the piano (NB This can be a journey of a few h...

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Never heard of a genuine Yamaha retrofit, but that's not to say they don't exist.

Is it for sale by our wealthy dealer friend in Chorleywood perchance?

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Can't you hire a charabanc and at least half a dozen of us forum experts could descend on you? It could be like the 'Are you being served' movie when they all go on holiday! Or, if the discussion turns to preferred makes of piano, it could be more like Reservior Dogs 8) More like "Futtocks End...

PianoGuy

Playing Einaudi by the look of that smiley........

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Tuning often has little to do with tuning pins moving! Your piano's soundboard is continually absorbing and releasing moisture as the environmental conditions change around it. This causes swelling and contracting of the board which tensions and slackens the strings respectively. A brand new piano h...

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It sounds to be mid to late 1990s.

I would expect the Rieger-Kloss logo to be in gold foil with the serifs peeling off and the Detoa action to be sticking.

These days they're called "Bohemia" and are a bit better.

PianoGuy

Brodmann website lists several UK dealers, and there is no mention of Colin Taylor not trading. Well maybe the sites have been paid for and there's no burning desire on Mr Taylor's part to take them offline, although the old .co.uk site no longer exists and has now been rediricted to the .com one, ...

PianoGuy

I'd be ever so wary about buying a make with no manufacturer's warranty from a dealership at the other end of the world. No official importer means no warranty except that which may be offered to you by the dealer, and if it's a major fault the dealer will have no redress with a foreign manufacturer.

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Openwood you can buy direct from Colin Taylor at Brodmann UK I am in Yorkshire and Besbrode have a good deal on (Ithink!) Brodmann 182 I've heard good things about them but never seen one in a showroom; who retails them in the UK? Colin Taylor is no longer trading I'm afraid. There is no UK Brodman...

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Think the Austrian bit is still extant.

Yes they did try to buy Bosie. It would have strengthened their rather dubious "historic" connection to that firm! Lucky escape for them maybe that they were beat to it by Yamaha?

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Yamaha do an official brass-effect one. I'm sure they'll be only to pleased for you to have one for the use of!

Give them a call.

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what is there anything wrong with petrof? actiually i am a fan of petrof.....& i would like to get one ......... but how come it seems nobody owns one in this country? or finding any dealer of petrof? is there any reason for that? r they not good?? weather? OK Let's be fair here. I've never bee...

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Er....

Yamaha.

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Exactly the opposite!

Renner equipment is fitted to some of the finest pianos!

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Looking at that pic, that is exactly the 'modern' casework I was thinking of. Not so modern now I suppose, but not 'traditional' with toes and pillars.

The innards are completely conventional with a stock Renner action.

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Certainly! Whilst a newer K or a V would be a better piano than the compact and rather ungainly looking Z, an *old* ( turn of the century) K or "Vertegrand" has a very quirky action which although beautifully made is a disaster to work on, and most are becoming very fragile now. The actual...

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H I jotted down the serial number, and later i sent an email to Steinway, asking about the piano. they replied that it was manufactured in Hamburg in 1969, with a walnut dull finish and sold to so and so etc... it was a disappointment, since my friend said it was over a 120 years old. A 1969 Model ...

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