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joe

£10,000 would be okay say for an instrument say a few years old not for a 40 year old piano,in general i feel they are overpriced and the tone from their uprights are nothing special,dont get the Bosendorfer thing ,get the romantic history part of it,but thats all.Opinion based on tuning a few imper...

joe

You would need to be a MAD person to pay anything like that ?.

joe

My father has one of these it's been in the family for at least 80 years as it was his grandmothers. It was made especially for a shop in Glasgow called cuthbertsons. It's been played through 4 generations and still going well. Happy playing. Could you post a photo showing the piano,think you may b...

joe

joseph wrote:and the was originally about Estonias.... yeah OK I'd have one.

Generally overpriced for what they are.

joe

W.Thomson was a piano/organ family business till 1973 who where bought by the Clydesdale Group who where an electrical retailer selling stereos,televisions etcThey never made their own pianos,more often than not they would modernise the case and redo action if a used piano and put on various trade-n...

joe

Phone Piano Logistics and ask for Julian they maybe able to help you,did the mover put the piano on its gable-end ?.

joe

The ex-Bluthner boys do a 1st class job,but the price difference between their rcond 100 year old grand piano and a decent quality new grand is in my opinion not worth the money,unless you are looking for a furniture period instrument,or if they are able to create the unique Bluthner tone of that ti...

joe

What is your reason for buying silent piano ?. Kawai K2-ATX is nice piano,and the silent function in their ATX system is superior to Yamahas.Stay away from 30 to 40 year old Japanese imports these pianos are generally heavily used and from a personal point i would never fully restring and totally re...

joe

The Broadwood Barless Grands where in my opinion the best British grand pianos ever built and should be appreciated more,best of luck.Re-conditioned a good few over the years and was never disappointed and as "Gill" stated their tuning stability was ahead of its time,also liked the tone th...

joe

So Yamaha have no technical input with Pearl River ? . There is no Yamaha shareholding in Pearl River ?. There is no Yamaha frame,soundboards,back posts,and piano action part production in Pearl River ?. In effect the Yamaha factory in Indonesia is doing all the production of pianos from start to fi...

joe

Thanks Chris for upto date info,do Yamaha not own the Pearl River Factory ?.Just back from a week break in Cyprus and the hotel had a Ritmuller player grand which was was a carbon copy of a GB1 internally,cabinet had different design features and was only 4 years old.

joe

Ritmuller and B-series Yamahas are made in same factory using nearly all the same components Yamaha would be my choice,expand your search and try Kawai pianos,Essex Pianos and other brand names you may have heard of.Keep clear of badge engineered instruments which have grand sounding European names ...

joe

Nothing wrong with the Japanese pianos,and buying others which are covered by warranties offered by Steinway,Yamaha,Kawai,Boston,Essex etc,not a fan of every Tom,Dick and Harry trying to promote their particular favourite Chinese piano,just because they stock it, and can make a profit of it, they wo...

joe

Used Steinway grand in good condition,if you got 25k and more,should not be a problem,stay away from old instruments which have had plank and soundboard replacements and have been reconded in China and Eastern Europe.

joe

i know of 2 well respected piano tutors who where virtually given the grand piano for free to try promote the brand to their pupils,smart ploy not really as the students where of conservertoire standard.and the 2 techs where kept busy attending to the niggles that a low quality grand piano produces...

joe

A waste of money ?,there are better grand pianos out there for the same money and a little more.

joe

Regards the piano referred to in previous threads,roughly 4 to 5 years ago the piano was 75% less retail than its suggested RRP now and i know of 2 well respected piano tutors who where virtually given the grand piano for free to try promote the brand to their pupils,smart ploy not really as the stu...

joe

Some chinese pianos ie Brodmann are very good quality indeed. I would be interested in the view from the forum tuners on Brodmann. When I was looking for a piano, I visited a dealer who was an agent for Brodmann (amongst others). I did not particularly like the tone, but in any case the dealer was ...

joe

Tenor1 wrote:Have any techs had experience with the new Estonia Grands? post 1992 ie build quality and general quality of the instruments

Do not play alone.

joe

Aye bet you wish you had a few Steinway pianos to sell at this time,as a decent amateur player and many years of piano retail expeirence very many of the customers are either Ist time buyers usually for children and dont play themselves,the others are very often furniture buyers looking for a nice p...

joe

MG sounds DESPERATE ?

joe

Chris Norman 1066 is a very respected piano trader and some of their restored pianos are excellent,must be trying to break into the new piano market but the public are not daft and will not fall in love with the sound of music brand names,its an old trick which as been around over 100 years rebadgin...

joe

MarkGoodwinPianos wrote:£100 - £200
Would you rather try and sell a U3 or a Chappell?
People love U3s but nobody gets too excited over a Chappell

I do,much prefer the tone of of good,well maintained used piano with character than the clitter-clatter of an overpowering U3.

joe

YAMAHA U2 HONKY TONK are they ever anything else

joe

Piano Sexism,have heard it all now can hardly believe my ears especially on Yamaha pianos,cute,romantic,sweet etc,my description of these instruments are practise pianos,workhorses at give-away prices.If after sweet,melodic tones stay clear.

joe

Used to stock them their 130cm upright was in a class of it own as where their grand pianos,but as Joseph rightly comments outpriced themselves,think they are still producing some pianos in Germany,and probably have a production line in a factory in China.

joe

If in full working order and tunes to pitch no problem if not leave alone.

joe

If you are very careful and have the proper drill bit not a difficult DIY job would try and use older music desk clips where the thread is thinner,drill hole and pack with matchsticks and white glue then screw in desk clips leave overnight should do the trick.Another gadget which have not seen aroun...

joe

I know 2 companies that are constantly using them to hire Steinway B and D grands to venues and swear by them,and they fit no problem in proper piano delivery vans.

joe

The name Butlers springs to mind where they not the Peters & Lee of the piano moving world for a while

joe

2nd piano is East German mid-seventies uprights,they where sold using a multitude of German sounding trade names.

joe

Never had any problems with them even with a U3 or Steinway Vertegrand with the frame protruding by the plinth,when you have been moving and delivering pianos for the best part of 30 years kinda get used to it.Like the blow- up wheels trolley for going over gravel and stone driveways,

joe

Trolley looks fine to me,MG what trolley do you use?.

joe

How much does the Feurich retail for?.

joe

Sound Instruments,remember them well tried to buy up all the old Steinway,Bechstein,Bluthner,Bosendorfer etc at silly prices,they would buy instruments via the U.K.auction house network,and had musicians buying pianos for them who where trombone players,you could make good money from your German jun...

joe

Yamaha have no interest or desire to stop"price slashing" their concern is the bottom line and volume of boxes sold and even though we have heard about "harmony agreements" in last few years dealers are working off different percentage trade lists hidden behind ex-demos,shop soil...

joe

Demand,internet selling,ebay,too many foreign imports,the disappearance of British makers,wholesalers of new pianos greed,cheap keyboards,but most importantly the discount battle on Yamaha instruments which devalued the entire trade.Piano sales have been in decline since the thirties,and by my recko...

joe

Back in the seventies and eighties my fathers business was all export 40ft containers a plenty to Ireland,Italy,France,and Holland could not get enough pianos all types floral case german over unders and over overs,straight-strungs every piano had a market.also used to sell within the U.K trade pian...

joe

Kawai K2 is an excellent piano for a domestic environment,the Kawai K6 is in a class of its own at its price point.warm,full rounded tone.

joe

The Feurich (Wendl & Lung) is only 178cm but is a nice piano if set up right by the dealer. There are a few dealers around with these The Perzina grands have just been redesigned so there wont be many out there. In general, not many dealers stock the big Chinese middle of the range grands as ma...

joe

My advice when buying used Yamahas from Far-East get the pianos which at most require an action overhaul,and possible bass section restring,often find when buying direct instruments are half-tone flat from concert pitch you can cut out the wholesalers and go direct SUSSEX and you would be pleasantly...

joe

Am i my missing something here are most of the imported,musically knackered,tubby bass strung,moth-eaten felts,cracked keys, broken looped,shimmed soundboard,sheared pinned,not forgetting loose bridges YAMAHAS not reconditioned in CHINA using cheaper materials before been imported here.Seen a so cal...

joe

I am a bit confused. The stop bar replaces the celest rail? And how does the system recieve the info on key and speed? The big problem I can see is not many people will want to play with the insides of their piano. I can see that the price is right as a Pianodsic GT-2 system fitted is around £1200....

joe

Yamaha GA1 grands tend to go out of tune easily thats why it was replaced by the GB1,the hammers are so hard its needs a magician to be able to tone them,£3900 was probably what they paid for it 10years ago,would wait a while and try get a used C1 different league in the quality stakes.

joe

About 20 years ago there was a classical pianist who toured with a set of Steinway key lead weights and after tuning Steinway Model D if he was not happy with the feel of piano would ask if you could re-weight the keyboard 15 minutes before his performane

joe

Yeah, it said it was made in the 70s. Thanks. ...As far as different types of actions, do you think it would still be worth it if it had a simplex? I've heard that baby grands in general aren't great unless they have roller action because of the shortness of the strings and the loss of tone. I have...

joe

Kawai K3 is better value as the Yamaha U1 is almost 2k more at the proper retail prices,if price is not a factor would buy the Yamaha,other makes to consider are Essex 123 and Boston 118 and 126 models and Zinnermans would go and try as many pianos as possible,whats the budget?.

joe

Seen a few of the years very similar to Kemble pianos.

joe

I like them also have a neutral tone which is pleasant to the ear.They are expensive and there seems to be "price fixing policy" in place.

joe

...anyone know where they're made? A customer asked me and I didn't know...but had a deep suspicion that it wasn't Berlin! Bechstein are not made in Germany and neither are the Zinnermans read their brochures and you would think they where.Bechstein/Samick alliance may give you a clue and previousl...

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