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The type of panel used on the top door suggests that it might be from around 1890, but the trusses that support the keyboard are very plain, and perhaps suggest Edwardian, so have a look at http://www.pianohistory.info/edwardian.html I think the number is nearer to 1890. If you search Ebay for piano...

I am sorry this post didn't appear on my screen when I answered your previous one, but the same still applies.

We have no content at all from you. As far as valuation is concerned, nobody anywhere can guess the value or condition of a piano without inspecting it on the spot, and checking how well it holds in tune, so your local tuner is the best person to ask. As far as history is concerned, we would like to...

Kemble makes sense, but there should be a number receded by K, perhaps imprinted on the soundboard near the left edge at keyboard level.
Could it be a Bentley 1969?

Terms like "Console Piano" or "console size" are unknown this side of the ocean. It looks like a fifties-style upright from one of the London houses, and Steck is one of a group of names (including Orchestrelle) that overlap, and seem to indicate the Aeolian factory. Is there som...

There are lots of pianos from about 1890-1910 in England, no value in most of them if you were selling, and many of them are untuneable, so purely museum display material. It's the sort of thing that is often offered for donation to my collection, but not always worth the delivery cost. At the momen...

Thanks for the photos, I can only guess it might be from around 1890.
If you want to search inside it for clues, have a look at
http://www.pianohistory.info/datemarks.html

What would really help me is photos that show what the WHOLE piano looks like, rather than just the name. Where in the world are you? The name was first used in 1878, the absence of the Bristol address may suggest pre-1903. My impression is that Duck, Son & Pinker were never real manufacturers, ...

Thanks, it's always useful to be able to tell other people where the number might be. It is not uncommon for it to be on the soundboard, but this one is tucked away.

I can't recognise the parts where 58269 is imprinted, are they keys? I can't make out what the vertical things are. The 269 on most parts is the last 3 digits of the serial number, which would date it at 1915, or perhaps just into 1916, so earlier than I guessed, but who knows how accurate these dat...

Have a look on my Datemarks page at pianohistory.info or click the "clues inside" link. I would be expecting a serial number in the 70,000 range, and not usually imprinted on the edge like that. If your tuner feels it is safe to remove the action, it may be marked with the action makers' n...

Lots of points there, I hope I remember to answer them all. Most actions are capable of standing upright on a bench, but there are always the awkward ones. I wasn't saying they were the same piano, I thought the number might be same, and not a serial number. The pianos look to be of similar age, so ...

Thanks for the photos, and serial number, but I can't tell you much more than was said before. Just reading this item, it appears to give 2 different versions of the serial number, 1337 and 1887, but the first is from the earlier post. Because of their similarity, I wonder if they are actually the s...

It looks like something from the twenties, perhaps around 1923, but you don't say what the numbers are, or show them in the photos. They are the only clue that might tell us when it was made. While the piano is undressed, if you can remove the fall (keyboard cover) you could carefully lift a few key...

Can you show us what the WHOLE piano looks like? The number you show, preceded by the letter H, is not the serial number, it is probably a dealer's stock number. If for example, it was Harrods who sold it, it would have been shortly before 1920. Around this time, they used a paper label saying "...

If you have a look at my Numbers page at pianohistory.info you can read that dating a piano purely on the basis of numbers is often not as simple as it seems. Most pianos have several numbers inside, but a 3-digit one is not big enough for a serial number. Often, if you just open the top and look in...

The earliest number published is 130,000 for 1925, and we can only guess if this means yours was made around 1886.

Looks very similar to the Marshall in a post I just answered. Based on the thirties Minipiano design, probably after 1934.

I can find no record that any maker ever described an instrument as "Ship's piano", this seems to be an invention of the internet. A Yacht Piano is a small upright with fold-away keyboard. Yours is in the style of the 1930s Minipianos, but I am surprised to see the Marshall name on its own...

My Names page
http://www.pianohistory.info/names.html
explains that "Karl Lange" is one of a number of fake names used on pianos sold by W.H.Barnes in London. "Minipiano" is a specific Eavestaff model, there is no general definition.
Is there any chance you could post photos here?

The photos would tell me more than the name. You can email them to me to post if it is easier. The "& Son" became plural in the 1890s, which suggests a Victorian piano, so have a look at
http://www.pianohistory.info/victorian.html

You would have to get a tuner-technician to do these jobs, where in the world are you?

The serial number suggests that the piano was made during the first world war, perhaps 1916. Unrestored pianos of this age have very little value here in England, but nobody anywhere can guess the value or condition of a piano without inspecting it on the spot and checking how well it holds in tune,...

The name is BEADLE & Langbein. Numbers do not help with this make, no dates are published, but 16,788 could be around the first world war. Can you post photos to show what the whole piano looks like? The partnership began around 1890, and the firm continued until 1931. Have a look at http://www....

It seems too much of a coincidence, but I can't imagine that it would have a brass nameplate if he just owned the piano, unless he had it made for just the one piano. Perhaps it was a joke?
It would explain why I can't find Hochmann as a piano maker.

If you search this forum for any of Gill's posts, there will be a contact button, but she may be listed as Gill the piano.
I have told her you are trying to contact her.

It appears to be a typical Edwardian upright, but you still haven't told me which Brinsmead it is, or what other information is written on there. If it is John Brinsmead, the number would suggest something around 1887, but this seems wrong, so open the top and have a look inside, and there may be ot...

There are pictures online of a young Elton John playing a King Brothers piano, but very little is known about the company. The only references I have on file are between 1911 and 1949, at Tresham Avenue, Hackney Station. King is a very common surname, so it is not surprising that a number of piano a...

The number suggests that it was made in 1927, and this seems quite likely for its appearance.

I could probably tell you more if we could see what the WHOLE piano looks like, but nobody can guess what needs doing to it, or whether it is worth doing, without inspecting it on the spot, so your local tuner is the person to ask. Is that the only number inside the top of the piano? And which Brins...

I contacted Crane & Sons many years ago, and they had no archive material which would allow them to look up individual pianos. Several trades people have told me that Cranes didn't make their own pianos. Some were made by Kennard or Lyon, but we don't know who made them all, unless there are clu...

It's not really about how old it is, it's what state it's in. Nobody anywhere can guess the value or condition of a piano without inspecting it on the spot, and checking how well it holds in tune, so your local tuner is the best person to ask.

You can email them to me and I will attempt to load them.
Either go to my website or click on the contact link.

Thanks, but there is no sign of attachments.

I have hundreds of surviving Spencer pianos on file, some of them can be found on this forum, but no original archives survive to tell us about the history of individual pianos. The number suggests that it was made in 1916. Is there any chance you could post photos here to show us what the WHOLE pia...

Nobody anywhere can guess the value or condition of a piano without inspecting it on the spot. If it needs replacement parts, you will need to call in a technician. The London & Liverpool Piano Co. is no mystery, they were in Granby Street from at least 1899 to 1938. They were connected with Cra...

Originally, Kessels was the largest musical instrument manufacturer in Holland. This a name which has more questions than answers, certainly as far as the pianos are concerned, and I have no details about pianos made by them in Holland, but later pianos marked "Kessels Ltd, London" are tho...

In a clavichord, metal pieces attached directly to the keys not only strike the strings, they set the length of string that sounds. Your instrument appears to be a square piano, so have a look at http://www.pianohistory.info/square.html Is the name carved, or imprinted with a metal stamp? This is a ...

If you have a look at http://www.pianohistory.info/numbers.html you can read that Collards are one of the most difficult to date by numbers, a great deal of nonsense is published about them, and my best guess is that it might be around 1872. The short number does not help, and the archives were lost...

The problem is in knowing WHICH Steinmayer or Steinmeyer made it, as explained at http://www.pianohistory.info/names.html It was sometimes used as a fake name on reconditioned pianos, especially modernised ones. Some Steinmeyers were sold in Leeds by Hopkinson Successors Ltd., but they appear to hav...

I have no trace of a piano in this style being made in the war, but what often happens is that a secondhand piano is bought for a child, and they don't know how old it was, so they think it is new.
That's the only logic I can offer.

You can email Bill at pianohistory.info or press the contact button next to this message and select email. I have just done a test, it works.

Yes, this is probably about 1877, but there should be a date written on the side of the key on the top note. Most pianos have several numbers inside. For more general information see http://www.pianohistory.info/victorian.html Does it have hexagonal legs? As usual, the most important photo would be ...

By 1928, my "Musique Adresses Universel" lists T.E.Bevan & Co. as having branches in Calcutta, Darjeeling, Lahore, Mussoorie & Naini Tal.
It is quite possible that these towns may have more information on file in their libraries.

You shouldn't growl at your computer, and some people believe that getting stressed actually makes the machine more likely to go wrong! I get emails every day, so I don't know what is wrong, perhaps your typing? We don't type email addresses on here, because it causes endless junk mail, but you can ...

You can email them to me to post. You should be able to see an email button on your screen, or my website.
Absolutely fabulous!
The original enquiry was a long time ago, 2012, so I doubt if we will hear from them.

Thanks for that, did you say you have photos of Mr Bevan? May we know your name?

We don't know who made it, there are so many options including STEINBERG, BERLIN STEINBERG (Wilh.) Eisenberg STEINBERG by ROGERS STEINBERG, USA STEINBURG, Korea No reliable dates of serial numbers are available, so the best approach is to get your local tuner to search for clues inside it. If it is ...

I am puzzled! If you can't get the photos to show, they are not there. You could email them to me, and I will try.
Welmar is nothing to do with Berlin.
Have a look at
http://www.pianohistory.info/datemarks.html

Welmar is a name used by piano manufacturers Whelpdale, Maxwell & Codd, London, who were also importers of Bluthner pianos. WEIMAR seems to be an alias used on pianos sold by Harrods, nothing to do with WeLmar, and their number would suggest that they sold it in 1925. I am surprised that Berlin ...

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