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by Bill Kibby
14 Aug 2003, 21:04
Forum: Piano History
Topic: A. Beardmore & Sons piano
Replies: 1
Views: 4011

Beardmore

On the subject of Beardmore, I had an enquiry from Texas recently about an H. Beardmore & Sons upright thought to be about 75 Years old "manufactured expressly for J.D. Cuthbertson & Co., 226-230 Sauchiehall St., Glasgow". The serial number inside the cabinet is #10342.” I have general lists of Lond...
by Bill Kibby
13 Aug 2003, 18:52
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Kirkman Upright Piano
Replies: 14
Views: 9556

Kirkman / Great Exhibition

The Great Exhibition, 1851, was the first of the major International Exhibitions, and led to a whole succession of such events worldwide, where piano makers competed for medals and awards, status symbols which they then illustrated on their pianos. See http://www.uk-piano.org/piano-gen/pianos-in-par...
by Bill Kibby
13 Aug 2003, 09:41
Forum: Piano Advice
Topic: Brinsmead Grand Pianola
Replies: 7
Views: 6533

Brinsmead

I've heard this line so often, I even worked under a manager who used it without conscience to sell pianos and organs. Pianos are almost always mass-produced by the hundreds or thousands, with only slight variations, so if someone says there were only four made, I would say "PROVE IT!". Also there i...
by Bill Kibby
13 Aug 2003, 09:36
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Anonymous piano (Brasted?)
Replies: 18
Views: 17669

Nameless

I suppose you've tried carefully scraping the paint off?
by Bill Kibby
13 Aug 2003, 09:34
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Kirkman Upright Piano
Replies: 14
Views: 9556

Kirkman

Do remember the advice at http://www.uk-piano.org/piano-gen/piano-serial-numbers.html and don't rely totally on serial numbers for dates: The early numbers published for Kirkman are not correct, whoever tells you otherwise, so I would be interested to hear if you find that yours is right, especially...
by Bill Kibby
12 Aug 2003, 09:24
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Chappell piano
Replies: 2
Views: 5265

Chappell

I believe that Kembles were already making Chappell pianos under license in the sixties, when I joined the trade, and they continued to do so until recently. Under the bottom key, there should be a key maker's label giving the date, and it may mention Kemble. These were some of the best upright pian...
by Bill Kibby
12 Aug 2003, 09:21
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Kirkman Upright Piano
Replies: 14
Views: 9556

Kirkman

Many tuners don't like antique pianos becuase of all the technical problems and limitations. Being a piano historian, I am very keen to prevent these old instruments ending up on the scrap heap, although americans tend to have more respect for age. If it was here, I would try to find s way of gettin...
by Bill Kibby
11 Aug 2003, 18:59
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Anonymous piano (Brasted?)
Replies: 18
Views: 17669

Anonymous piano

I apologise if this appears twice, I pressed the wrong button! I might be able to tell you some things from photos, but it is unlikely that I would know the name, with over twenty thousand to choose from. However, Shenstone keys do indicate British manufacture. Proceed as if there was a name, and it...
by Bill Kibby
11 Aug 2003, 18:52
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Kirkman Upright Piano
Replies: 14
Views: 9556

Kirkman

I have a car which says "Ford" on the front, can you tell me anything about it? I would need a lot more information, to tell you anything useful, but they are far from rare or valuable in the UK, although I don't know where you are. Value depends on condition, which must be assessed by a technician ...
by Bill Kibby
11 Aug 2003, 18:48
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Joseph Wallis & Son Ltd
Replies: 3
Views: 4978

Wallis

Setial numbers are not published for Wallis, who may not even have made the pianos, but I can tell you that Joseph Wallis & Son piano #8,606 has the frame date 10.3.20 - meaning 1920. This is on the iron frame, under the keyboard. See http://www.uk-piano.org/piano-gen/datemarks-in-pianos.html and ht...
by Bill Kibby
11 Aug 2003, 18:42
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Ludwig New York upright info...
Replies: 20
Views: 19931

Ludwig

Ludwig pianos were made from 1888 to 1953, and some dates of serial numbers are available, if you can find the number, probably inside the top. Beyond that, I have very little experience of pianos from that side of the ocean, and could not compile a detailed report from photos, although I might be a...
by Bill Kibby
10 Aug 2003, 01:26
Forum: Piano Advice
Topic: Can somebody help me to indentify this piano style....?
Replies: 2
Views: 4547

Styles

By all means send me a sound file, but labelling styles is a very difficult area, there are far more styles than labels, and one man's R&B is another man's swing.

archives@pianogen.fsnet.co.uk
by Bill Kibby
09 Aug 2003, 15:43
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Franz Gerold piano
Replies: 1
Views: 3755

Gerold

Still nothing found so far!
by Bill Kibby
09 Aug 2003, 15:42
Forum: Piano History
Topic: William Gillegin
Replies: 8
Views: 7448

Gillegin

Gillegin is not listed in any of my London lists 1860-1900, nor my Post Office London Directory for 1892, but then, neither is Peckham Road, being outside the main area of the directory. Which factory was that? My guess is that he served his apprenticeship as a Pianoforte Maker, then worked for hims...
by Bill Kibby
09 Aug 2003, 09:30
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Chappell and the King of Spain
Replies: 2
Views: 6113

Chappell

Chappells have a very long history, and certainly did have an appointment to the King of Spain, which is mentioned on most of their pianos. I can supply booklets on Chappell, and on Royal Appointments, or compile a report based on photos, but no-one anywhere can trace the life history of every piano...
by Bill Kibby
07 Aug 2003, 20:20
Forum: Piano History
Topic: W.H. Barnes
Replies: 1
Views: 7115

Barnes

Around London's piano trade, Barnes, Berry & Boyd were known as the "Three Bs", and I have tuned so many Barnes pianos over the years that it would seem pointless to put all the details on this file, but enquiries are welcomed. I have some brief notes on the firm, but they were not makers, and you s...
by Bill Kibby
05 Aug 2003, 01:08
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Seneral & Quidnz
Replies: 1
Views: 3642

Seneral & Quidoz

Apart from the fact that they were based in St. Therese, Canada, I'm sorry to say I can't help you. See
http://www.uk-piano.org/piano-gen/canad ... firms.html
by Bill Kibby
05 Aug 2003, 01:05
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Brinsmead piano 124710
Replies: 1
Views: 3392

Brinsmead

The number suggests a 1965 piano made by Kemble, but you should read
http://www.uk-piano.org/piano-gen/piano ... mbers.html
and
http://www.uk-piano.org/piano-gen/datem ... ianos.html

I can supply a booklet on the Brinsmead firms for &16.
by Bill Kibby
05 Aug 2003, 01:00
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Joshua Marshall piano
Replies: 6
Views: 8461

Marshall it is!

Yes, you are quite right, I was told wrongly by the owner, but my directories show that although he was not listed in 1886, he was "limited" by 1894, and still there in 1936. I'll see what else I can find.
by Bill Kibby
04 Aug 2003, 18:31
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Joshua Marshall piano
Replies: 6
Views: 8461

Marshall

The name would be Joshua Marshall, or Huddersfield, and around 1900, his pianos were marked "selected by" because he bought them in from a wholesale maker, and put his own name on them. Serial numbers are no help if we don't know the true maker. I will have a look for you, but I don't think I have a...
by Bill Kibby
30 Jul 2003, 22:33
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Lakeside Piano Co
Replies: 12
Views: 7444

Lakeside

The number suggests 1908.
by Bill Kibby
30 Jul 2003, 20:47
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Lakeside Piano Co
Replies: 12
Views: 7444

Lakeside

I'm sorry, we seem to be at cross-purposes! The article on Datemarks will help you to locate possible clues to date in the piano, and the article on Numbers will, regardless of name, help you to understand the pros and cons of using numbers as a guide to date. If you can find Lakeside's numbers insi...
by Bill Kibby
30 Jul 2003, 19:09
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Lakeside Piano Co
Replies: 12
Views: 7444

Lakeside

As I said, see "Datemarks" & "Numbers" at
http://www.uk-piano.org/piano-gen/price ... story.html
by Bill Kibby
30 Jul 2003, 18:39
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Lakeside Piano Co
Replies: 12
Views: 7444

Lakeside

The Lakeside Piano Co. was established in 1874, and serial number dates are availble from 1903 to 1949, IF you can find the right number! Otherwise, I have little experience of pianos from that side of the ocean. I'm embarassed how many times I direct forum enquiries to my PianoGen website, but look...
by Bill Kibby
29 Jul 2003, 23:24
Forum: Piano History
Topic: William Gillegin
Replies: 8
Views: 7448

Gillegin

When you say "listed", what is he listed in?
by Bill Kibby
28 Jul 2003, 12:00
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Brinsmead piano - 1948?
Replies: 3
Views: 4950

Brinsmead

Number 84659 suggests 1948, but see the articles on "Numbers" & "Datemarks" at
http://www.uk-piano.org/piano-gen/price ... story.html
by Bill Kibby
27 Jul 2003, 06:41
Forum: Piano History
Topic: William Gillegin
Replies: 8
Views: 7448

William Gillegin

When you say "Pianoforte Maker", do you mean he had his own business? The victorian piano trade in London was a huge employer, and it is impossible to trace every worker by active research, but I probably have more chance than most people of having things turn up at random. Census records are your b...
by Bill Kibby
26 Jul 2003, 14:35
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Brinsmead piano - 1948?
Replies: 3
Views: 4950

Brinsmead

The number you quote is not a Brinsmead serial number, is the "S" really there? It sounds more like a dealer's stock number. See the articles on Numbers and Datemarks on the PianoGen website, and also the comments below.
by Bill Kibby
24 Jul 2003, 23:57
Forum: Piano History
Topic: C. E. Little & Sons, London
Replies: 1
Views: 7966

Charles Edwin Little

Yes, I certainly have some information on file. Up to 1914, Little made 25,000 instruments bearing his own or other names, so #27011 should be after 1914. A piano #31,071 by Little is dated 1922, so 6,000 numbers in 6 years, but being wartime, we can only guess that it may have been around 1916. Fur...
by Bill Kibby
21 Jul 2003, 17:07
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Graves & Sons
Replies: 1
Views: 4397

Graves / Little

I can't help you with selling the piano, but may be able to give some clues to its age. Leytonstone is quite near where I was born, and this may be the same shop which Berry Pianos took over, and I worked in occasionally. William Graves is not on my lists for 1894 or 1911, but does appear in 1899. H...
by Bill Kibby
20 Jul 2003, 10:36
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Franz Geser
Replies: 2
Views: 5459

I apologise for the delay in answering, I have been unable to find Franz Geser, but there was an F. Oeser in Vienna around 1880, and he was still in business in 1911, but I have no other information. A report can be compiled from photos via the PianoGen website.
by Bill Kibby
16 Jul 2003, 22:40
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Beardmore & Sons piano
Replies: 1
Views: 3786

Beardmore

Mike's piano was H. Beardmore, manufactured expressly for J.D. Cuthbertson & Co., 226-230 Sauchiehall St., Glasgow. I have general lists of London piano firms for every decade. There was a Beard, and a Beardwell, but there is no reference to Beardmore. The most likely explanation is that it was a Lo...
by Bill Kibby
14 Jul 2003, 20:31
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Hillier Piano Company
Replies: 1
Views: 3552

Hillier

Most piano names are not on the net. Is this E. Hiller, or James Hillier?
by Bill Kibby
14 Jul 2003, 20:28
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Blankenstein
Replies: 3
Views: 7260

Blankenstein piano

Blankenstein numbers are not reliable, because there are three sets, and they can be very confusing. Rough dates: 1880 ----------------- 12,400 1890 ----------------- 19,000 1901 12,000 --------- 27,900 ------- 5,400 1906 16,000 1914 ---------- "Over 30,000 sold" 1920 23,000 1930 29,000 ------------...
by Bill Kibby
11 Jul 2003, 01:06
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Square piano?
Replies: 5
Views: 7279

Broadwood square

I'd have to check, but I thought they made squares later than that. However, I don't follow the point about 1840, they were making them long before then, and supplied royalty in the 1700s. It would be interesting to see the photos, if you could email any to my address.
by Bill Kibby
11 Jul 2003, 01:02
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Irving Piano?
Replies: 1
Views: 5318

Hi! I have answered your email already, so it seems silly to repeat it all!
by Bill Kibby
10 Jul 2003, 10:06
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Witton, Witton & Co London Est 1838
Replies: 1
Views: 8235

More modern Witton pianos were made by Barratt & Robinson,and follow their numbers, but no dates of numbers are published for the older ones. In 1899, they were still calling themselves "Witton & Witton", but by 1911, they were "Witton, Witton & Co." so that tells us that your piano is twentieth-cen...
by Bill Kibby
10 Jul 2003, 09:57
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Square piano?
Replies: 5
Views: 7279

Square piano?

I presume that what you are describing is a "Square Piano", actually shaped like a rectangular table with a keyboard let into the longer side. We are familiar nowadays with upright and grand pianos, but in victorian times, there were also square pianos made in vast quantities, popular with buyers be...
by Bill Kibby
03 Jul 2003, 00:30
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Chepstow piano
Replies: 2
Views: 4494

Chepstow / Fraserson

I have tuned Chepstow London pianos occasionally, from round about the 1920s, but have no information ready on computer, nor on Fraserson. I'll see what I can find.
by Bill Kibby
03 Jul 2003, 00:26
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Spencer piano 25954
Replies: 2
Views: 4738

Spencer

No, actually I said that the date was unlikely, but see the post anyway!
by Bill Kibby
03 Jul 2003, 00:25
Forum: Piano History
Topic: John Ellis piano
Replies: 8
Views: 7136

Ellis

Yes, I have tuned a few John Ellis pianos over the years, from around 1900-1910, including one owned by a John Ellis, unrelated to the maker. They described their address as London, but Upton Park was not in London then, so they don't show up in London lists! They were established in 1888, and I hav...
by Bill Kibby
25 Jun 2003, 19:12
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Koneztny Piano
Replies: 1
Views: 3300

Hi! Joseph Koneztny was a piano maker at 37 Alexandrastrasse, Berlin in 1928. That's all I have ready on computer so far. I could tell you more if you send photos to my email address.
by Bill Kibby
25 Jun 2003, 19:07
Forum: Piano History
Topic: G.Ehrbar Berlin piano
Replies: 5
Views: 8129

Ehrbar

Numbers are no help with this name. The one I saw years ago was also around the 1880s, but unless there are datemarks inside, the only thing I could do is compile a report on design and approximate age from photos. It would be interesting to see pictures anyway, to my email address, especially inter...
by Bill Kibby
24 Jun 2003, 15:05
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Bollinger?
Replies: 3
Views: 4780

Bollinger

"Musique Adreses Universel" (1928) lists the following:
Bollinger-Leard Music Co., Muskogee.
Bollinger Piano Co., Oskaloosa.
H. Bollinger, Little Rock.
H.G. Bollinger, 423 Garrison Avenue, Fort Smith. Pianos, Instruments, Gramophones, Music.
by Bill Kibby
24 Jun 2003, 10:18
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Eavestaff Pianette "Minipiano"
Replies: 24
Views: 26961

I think Barrie missed the point that many of the 1934-style back-action minis are now untuneable wrecks, with tuning pins which cannot be obtained or replaced. Valuation in that situation is a gallon of paraffin and a box of matches!
by Bill Kibby
24 Jun 2003, 10:13
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Eavestaff Pianette "Minipiano"
Replies: 24
Views: 26961

Eavestaff

"All the same stuff" has to be there to make it work, but the precise layout depends which Eavestaff mini we're talking about, there were several models including 1934 and 1969. The strings have to be shorter if there is no space!
by Bill Kibby
22 Jun 2003, 23:49
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Bollinger?
Replies: 3
Views: 4780

Bollinger

Sorry, I have very little first-hand experience of pianos from that side of the ocean.
by Bill Kibby
22 Jun 2003, 23:47
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Green & Marsh
Replies: 2
Views: 3537

Green & Marsh

Yes, I have some brief notes on Green & Marsh, and they were around Swindon from at least 1899 to 1928, but all I have so far are dates of addresses, although I can compile a report based on photos via the PianoGen website.
by Bill Kibby
22 Jun 2003, 15:21
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Arthur Allison piano
Replies: 9
Views: 8403

Allison

By all means send photos to my email address. I can also supply a booklet about the Allison firms, or compile a report from detailed photos.
by Bill Kibby
22 Jun 2003, 09:53
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Arthur Allison piano
Replies: 9
Views: 8403

Allison

It's a difficult problem to avoid, because even if you were english, you wouldn't necessarily know all the technical terms. In this case, the keys are the notes, a fairly international way of describing them (clef in french etc.) and the bottom key is the lowest note - the one on the left-hand end. ...