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by Bill Kibby
24 Jul 2017, 16:51
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Herrburger Brooks action
Replies: 1
Views: 1514

Re: Identification

Herrburger Brooks didn't make pianos, they made the action - the working parts of the notes. It only tells us it was made after 1919. If you want to search for clues inside the piano, have a look at http://www.pianohistory.info/datemarks.html If you can post photos here to show what the whole piano ...
by Bill Kibby
16 Jul 2017, 09:40
Forum: Piano Advice
Topic: New Kawai Age and History
Replies: 11
Views: 9639

Kawai

Kawai's website suggests that it was made in 1996. http://www.kawaius-tsd.com/pages/serial_manudate.html It's a bit too modern for my history files, but somebody who deals in new pianos may be able to answer more about the model. If you want to search inside it for a date, have a look at http://www....
by Bill Kibby
03 Jul 2017, 09:01
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Kirkman Baby Grand No 56277
Replies: 1
Views: 1635

Re: Kirkman Baby Grand No 56277

My Numbers page
http://www.pianohistory.info/numbers.html
explains that most pianos cannot be reliably dated purely on the basis of numbers. It might be around 1937. If you can post photos here to show what the whole piano looks like, or email them to me to post, I may be able to tell you more.
by Bill Kibby
29 Jun 2017, 15:37
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Waldemar of Berlin
Replies: 7
Views: 13078

Re: Waldemar of Berlin

For general information see
http://www.pianohistory.info/edwardian.html
If you want to search inside the piano for a date see
http://www.pianohistory.info/datemarks.html
by Bill Kibby
27 Jun 2017, 21:02
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Waldemar of Berlin
Replies: 7
Views: 13078

Re: Waldemar of Berlin

Waldemar is a name from Queen Victoria's family, and is sometimes used as an alias on a variety of pianos, which means that we have no way of knowing who made them, unless there are clues inside. There were at least 4 companies using the name. Many were sold in Australia and New Zealand. No dates of...
by Bill Kibby
26 Jun 2017, 09:54
Forum: Piano History
Topic: F. Rubinstein & Co. what age is my piano?
Replies: 9
Views: 4272

Re: F. Rubinstein & Co. what age is my piano?

I have already seen this picture on the Pinterest website, it is possibly the only piano by this maker illustrated online. In spite of being made in Prague, it resembles the German uprights of the 1890s shown at
http://www.pianohistory.info/edwardian.html
and I would guess it was made around 1898.
by Bill Kibby
25 Jun 2017, 19:54
Forum: Piano History
Topic: F. Rubinstein & Co. what age is my piano?
Replies: 9
Views: 4272

Re: F. Rubinstein & Co. what age is my piano?

This is obviously a different Rubinstein, based in Prague, and I have no details about him, although the pianos turn up occasionally. Could you give us photos to show what the whole piano looks like on the outside? There is useful general information about upright pianos at http://www.pianohistory.i...
by Bill Kibby
25 Jun 2017, 17:36
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Squire & Longson #126359
Replies: 2
Views: 2125

Re: Squire & Longson #126359

1965~Squire&Longson#126359-u.jpg As I explained when you emailed me in June, Kembles no longer exist, so it is unlikely that they will answer emails. No archive material is available at the moment, it is stored at Hackney Archives, but not available for research. 1964numbers739#.jpg If you have...
by Bill Kibby
13 Jun 2017, 21:15
Forum: Piano Advice
Topic: Advice on used Kemble Classic
Replies: 9
Views: 7758

Re: Advice on used Kemble Classic

When a celeste is set up correctly, it provides a muffling effect so the music is very soft, but these were sometimes misleadingly described as "silent practice stops", I am guessing you mean a completely silent effect? At any rate, you can't pracise proper touch when these devices are in use. Some ...
by Bill Kibby
12 Jun 2017, 21:55
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Piano brand - Dorffman?
Replies: 2
Views: 1996

Re: Piano brand - Dorffman ????

It seems odd spelling, like a Chinese idea of a German name, there are a few around, modern, but I don't know anything about them. Interestingly, the only one on Google Images was spelt wrongly! To quote my page at http://www.pianohistory.info/names.html Some people are disappointed if their piano d...
by Bill Kibby
12 Jun 2017, 19:15
Forum: Piano Advice
Topic: Advice on used Kemble Classic
Replies: 9
Views: 7758

Re: Advice on used Kemble Classic

My brain is mainly stuck in the 1800s as far as pianos are concerned. Dare I mention that if practice noise is a problem, an electronic piano with headphones may be the answer, some of them are very good now. I tried a portable Yamaha recently that was about £400 new, brilliant!
by Bill Kibby
12 Jun 2017, 11:21
Forum: Piano History
Topic: 1879 wrestplank (pinblock)
Replies: 0
Views: 1831

1879 wrestplank (pinblock)

1879~Challenger#12785podesku.jpg I just wanted to share this with tuners out there. Recently, I was given an 1879 Challenger & Co. upright, arguably a cottage piano with pan legs. It was so terribly out of tune, and a major third below pitch. The tuning showed no sign of being tuned properly in the...
by Bill Kibby
11 Jun 2017, 21:37
Forum: Piano Advice
Topic: Advice on used Kemble Classic
Replies: 9
Views: 7758

Re: Advice on used Kemble Classic

The most important factor deciding the value of an old piano is not its name, but its condition, and the most important aspect of that is whether it holds in tune, because if it doesn't, repairs can cost over a thousand pounds, and this is usually more than an old piano is worth. Nobody anywhere can...
by Bill Kibby
11 Jun 2017, 11:20
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Knight
Replies: 1
Views: 1676

Re: Knight

Only the date. If that was the serial number it would be a very old one, 1939, but piano numbers are rarely simple or straightforward, because most pianos have several numbers inside. Often you can find them by just lifting the top, or some are on the back of the piano, near the top. Normally with a...
by Bill Kibby
08 Jun 2017, 10:59
Forum: Piano History
Topic: John Brinsmead & Sons age
Replies: 1
Views: 1664

Re: John Brinsmead & Sons age

The majority of pianos cannot be reliably dated just on the basis of numbers, and one of the reasons for this is that most pianos have several numbers inside. 82116 may suggest 1925, but Brinsmead serial numbers are not preceded by a letter, so this is probably a retailer's stock number for a firm w...
by Bill Kibby
05 Jun 2017, 19:24
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Collard Grand
Replies: 3
Views: 2388

Re: Collard Grand

I have no idea what "higher ratio WNG action" means. My normal aproach would be to start by ignoring factual information such as numbers, and look for visible clues to the age of the piano. My first impression was that it might be about 1885. The black colour of the iron frame is original, although ...
by Bill Kibby
05 Jun 2017, 17:39
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Collard Grand
Replies: 3
Views: 2388

Re: Collard Grand

It is certainly not 1829! Collard's numbers are the absolute worst to try to date, and the published information is completely misleading, so read my Collard lists about a third of the way down the page at http://www.pianohistory.info/numbers.html In practical terms, ten thousand or eleven thousand ...
by Bill Kibby
04 Jun 2017, 11:21
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Spencer baby grand #79595
Replies: 1
Views: 1664

Re: 79595 spencer baby grand

The number suggests that it was made in 1925, but more modern Spencer pianos have been made by other firms with completely different number sequences.
by Bill Kibby
04 Jun 2017, 11:08
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Paul Gerard piano from Wheatlands Ltd.
Replies: 1
Views: 1948

Paul Gerard piano from Wheatlands Ltd.

The majority of pianos cannot be reliably dated purely on the basis of numbers. Some "Paul Gerard" pianos (not Gerrard) were sold by Barnes, some by Wheatlands. Several people have commented on the similarity between the names "Gerard" & "Erard". Vernon Kennard says "I think you will find Paul Gerar...
by Bill Kibby
04 Jun 2017, 11:05
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Harper & Eavestaff questions
Replies: 5
Views: 3050

Re: Two more questions

I have now placed a very complicated set of numbers for various Eavestaff pianos at
http://www.pianohistory.info/numbers.html
but although the facts are accurate, don't assume that this will make your life easier!

#71013 could be around 1929... or not!
by Bill Kibby
03 Jun 2017, 20:22
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Harper & Eavestaff questions
Replies: 5
Views: 3050

Re: Two more questions

I am still wrestling with Eavestaff, but as for Harper, by 1911 they were known as the Harper Electric Piano Co. Ltd., Holloway, referring of course to player pianos operated by electric blowers, rather than pedalling bellows. These were invented by Percy Harper, and a lot of their history may be fo...
by Bill Kibby
02 Jun 2017, 22:40
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Harper & Eavestaff questions
Replies: 5
Views: 3050

Re: Two more questions

Eavestaff numbers are a nightmare, there are several sequences, and if the keys are not dated, I can only suggest that it might be Brasted 1932-ish, is it a Mini? Or it could be 1940 !! There will soon be a more complete set pf Eavestaff numbers at http://www.pianohistory.info/numbers.html WHICH HAR...
by Bill Kibby
19 May 2017, 23:08
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Can you tell me about the Knight K6?
Replies: 2
Views: 1963

Re: Can you tell me about the Knight K6?

My impression is that K6 is not just one model, it has changed shape and size over the years. I don't have any details, but there are some shown on google images, and you could probably find bits of information attached to these. I don't know if I have any paperwork about the K6, but I will let you ...
by Bill Kibby
19 May 2017, 10:48
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Mystery!
Replies: 4
Views: 2492

Re: Mystery!

I have looked through the H files for Berlin firms, can't see any with an S. Could it be a postcode like Berlin S.O. or Berlin S.W.?
by Bill Kibby
18 May 2017, 19:25
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Mystery!
Replies: 4
Views: 2492

Re: Mystery!

I am looking, but when you say the action was made in Berlin, do you know who by, or what the action number is?
by Bill Kibby
13 May 2017, 13:19
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Age of Yamaha with D before number?
Replies: 1
Views: 1604

Re: Age of Yamaha U1 with letter D before serial number?

The majority of pianos cannot be reliably dated just by numbers, as I explain at http://www.pianohistory.info/numbers.html Near the bottom of that page, I list several Yamaha pianos that I have tuned, and verified the dates. You will have more chance of an accurate date if you look inside. See http:...
by Bill Kibby
13 May 2017, 13:11
Forum: Piano History
Topic: George Russell Piano history
Replies: 1
Views: 1542

Re: Piano history

Nobody can tell you anything about the individual piano just from the name, George Russell pianos were made for over a century. If you can post photos here, or email them to me, to show what the whole piano looks like, I may be able to tell you more. Meanwhile, there is useful general information at...
by Bill Kibby
11 May 2017, 11:08
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Barratt and Robinson Piano
Replies: 4
Views: 2776

Re: Barratt and Robinson Piano

This is a modern piano, 1960s or later. It is not rare, it is mass-produced. The red picture of exhibition medals mentions 1910, that only tells us that the piano was made after that event, as explained at http://www.pianohistory.info/exhibition.html The keys are your best chance of a date using the...
by Bill Kibby
11 May 2017, 09:30
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Barratt and Robinson Piano
Replies: 4
Views: 2776

Re: Barratt and Robinson Piano

I am sorry that I have had to correct your spelling, otherwise nobody will be able to google this post. Barratt & Robinson is a well-known name in London piano trade, but nobody can tell you anything about an individual piano just from the name. They made thousands of pianos over the period from 187...
by Bill Kibby
04 May 2017, 11:43
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Brinsmead #59734
Replies: 6
Views: 3152

Re: Brinsmead #59734

It was very common practise to log tuning dates in this way, as explained on my Datemarks page http://www.pianohistory.info/datemarks.html but they don't usually give so many dates, so it is interesting to have the photos. I am still looking for Osborn. Lerner Street? VICKERS (J.) BOLTON LANCASHIRE ...
by Bill Kibby
01 May 2017, 21:41
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Brinsmead #59734
Replies: 6
Views: 3152

Re: Brinsmead #59734

There are no original archives available to trace the original purchaser, or history of the individual piano. I am not the best person to ask about woods. It's important to realise that most pianos cannot be reliably dated purely on the basis of numbers, but I would put 59734 around 1907, which fits...
by Bill Kibby
18 Mar 2017, 18:38
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Holland Piano Age?
Replies: 4
Views: 2193

Re: Holland Piano Age?

Unfortunately, the american "Cabinet Grand Piano" is a bit like "Upright Grands" we see over here, it's all nonsense, a hyped-up very ordinary upright piano. "Upright Concert Grand" is the same.
by Bill Kibby
08 Mar 2017, 12:56
Forum: Piano History
Topic: C.Weidig, Jena Germany
Replies: 8
Views: 3524

Re: C.Weidig- why can't I find any information?

Don't worry from our point of view, but if you lift out the top door (top front panel) you may be able to use the link I gave you to look for datemarks inside. I would guess this piano was made around 1898, it is typical of the German uprights of the 1890s shown at http://www.pianohistory.info/edwar...
by Bill Kibby
03 Mar 2017, 01:25
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Otto Bach
Replies: 6
Views: 5993

Otto bach

“Otto Bach” ~~~~ seems originally to have been a name for pianos exported by Zimmermann, Leipzig for their export range. It appears that they took on the "Otto Bach, Leipzig" name by the twenties. It then seems that Dietmann, South Africa, purchased the "Otto Bach" brand in the 1950s and put it onto...
by Bill Kibby
01 Mar 2017, 13:18
Forum: Piano History
Topic: C.Weidig, Jena Germany
Replies: 8
Views: 3524

Re: C.Weidig- why can't I find any information?

The majority of piano names are not listed on the internet. To quote my Names page http://www.pianohistory.info/names.html Some folks are disappointed if their piano does not have a name on the front, but many piano names are meaningless anyway... People have come to regard the internet as the ultim...
by Bill Kibby
28 Feb 2017, 23:48
Forum: Piano History
Topic: J&J Hopkinson resto
Replies: 3
Views: 2172

Re: J&J Hopkinson resto

There's a bunch of them if you google "system hopkinson" piano
by Bill Kibby
20 Feb 2017, 01:23
Forum: Piano History
Topic: B.Boudon pianos, Lyon
Replies: 5
Views: 2438

Re: B.Boudon pianos, Lyon

Unfortunately this is a very common style of French Pianino with "French Legs", made over such a long period that I have no idea how old this one might be. 1860S? 1890s? No dates of serial numbers are available. My guess was 1865, but Lieve Verbeeck tells me that Boudon was not established until 189...
by Bill Kibby
19 Feb 2017, 02:24
Forum: Piano History
Topic: B.Boudon pianos, Lyon
Replies: 5
Views: 2438

Re: B.Boudon pianos, Lyon

Nobody can tell you anything about an individual piano just from the name. Can you post photos here to show what the whole piano looks like?

I have no historical information about Boudon, they were in business from at least the 1890s to the 1920s.
by Bill Kibby
13 Feb 2017, 23:10
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Beadle & Langbein piano
Replies: 40
Views: 24404

Re: Beadle & Langbein piano

While we are at it, can anyone help me with any details of Frederick Beadle, who seems to have disappeared when Beadle & Langbein first appeared in 1892?
by Bill Kibby
30 Jan 2017, 19:52
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Broadwood and Sons Cottage Piano?
Replies: 5
Views: 5414

Re: Broadwood and Sons Cottage Piano?

I had another enquiry about Treakell & Creber recently, but so far, I can only find them in 1875 and 1886. They were not listed 1894, 1899, 1911, 1914.

Joseph Treakell was on his own as a music seller in the 1850s & 1860s.
by Bill Kibby
30 Jan 2017, 12:43
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Schmidt, Stuttgart piano
Replies: 2
Views: 1609

Re: Schmidt, Stuttgart piano

The action (the working parts of the notes) was made by Oscar Kohler, and if you look at Kohler's numbers about two-thirds of the way down the page at http://www.pianohistory.info/numbers.html the number suggests that the piano was made in 1910. However, the the design of the outer casing is very pl...
by Bill Kibby
25 Jan 2017, 01:17
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Vosemar upright from H. Sharples & Son, Blackburn
Replies: 11
Views: 3601

Re: Vosemar upright from H. Sharples & Son, Blackburn

I've never found any tricks for clarifying faded marks, unless you can do anything with the image on computer. At the beginning of the 1914 war, Sharples had branches at Blackburn and Blackpool. Some upright piano styles changed around 1918, and this one is typical of that period. By 1928, Sharples ...
by Bill Kibby
24 Jan 2017, 01:00
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Vosemar upright from H. Sharples & Son, Blackburn
Replies: 11
Views: 3601

Re: Vosemar upright from H. Sharples & Son, Blackburn

I was hoping you had found the action makers' name to go with the number.
by Bill Kibby
23 Jan 2017, 19:31
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Vosemar upright from H. Sharples & Son, Blackburn
Replies: 11
Views: 3601

Re: Vosemar upright from H. Sharples & Son, Blackburn

There are a few of these around, but I have no record of a real maker by this name. "Vosemar" is thought to be an alias used by Sharples for pianos bought in from an anonymous wholesaler. Some of the other pianos Sharples sold were marked "Martin, London, sole agents.". Some of the mysteries of pian...
by Bill Kibby
20 Jan 2017, 10:57
Forum: Piano History
Topic: John Spencer & Co Upright Piano
Replies: 1
Views: 1984

Re: John Spencer & Co Upright Piano

The majority of pianos cannot be reliably dated by numbers, as explained at http://www.pianohistory.info/numbers.html but with Spencer it is usually straightforward, and if you open the top and see 51173 this suggests that it was made in 1908. If you can post photos here to show what the whole piano...
by Bill Kibby
17 Jan 2017, 14:41
Forum: Piano History
Topic: H Clemens upright piano
Replies: 9
Views: 4364

Re: H Clemens upright piano

A recent enquiry about Buchanan caused me to look at my newer files, and by 1905, Buchanan's address was given in the Glasgow directory as 134, Mains Street. This seems to place the piano before 1905.
by Bill Kibby
12 Jan 2017, 12:42
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Ajello piano
Replies: 5
Views: 2329

Re: Ajello piano

With the Ajello name, there are 3 main options. 1). The published dates of serial numbers are for the Manchester firm. 2). Guiliano Ajello was a London maker a century ago. 3). Some of the mysteries of piano names are discussed at http://www.pianohistory.info/names.html On that page, I explain how f...
by Bill Kibby
08 Jan 2017, 00:43
Forum: Piano History
Topic: J. Ramsperger & Co. Stuttgart
Replies: 7
Views: 3120

Re: J. Ramsperger & Co. Stuttgart

Yes, thanks for the photos, but that page also says that Edwardian pianos hadn't changed much since the 1890s, and the 1906 is the best and most reliable clue we have. Often, old pianos have no clues whatsoever. I have amended the wording to emphasise the fact that pianos didn't suddenly change beca...