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by Bill Kibby
07 Jul 2021, 14:26
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Bentley Piano
Replies: 3
Views: 448

Re: Bentley Piano

I cannot personally help you about the listings on this site, I am only involved with the forum. This is, as you thought, not a Bentley serial number, but a Harrods stock number, probably 1976. If you want to search inside the piano for clues, have a look at http://www.pianohistory.info/datemarks.ht...
by Bill Kibby
11 Jun 2021, 23:39
Forum: Piano Advice
Topic: Lippmann pianos
Replies: 4
Views: 6880

Re: Lippmann pianos

I wonder if anyone has found out any more about Lippmann pianos? I have to tune one, it looks like a Yamaha upright, but the name on the front and the frame is Lippmann.
by Bill Kibby
10 Jun 2021, 10:38
Forum: Piano History
Topic: E. Wheatland & Sons
Replies: 3
Views: 435

Re: E. Wheatland & Sons

Thanks for that, these pieces of ephemera are impossible to find by active research.
Is there any chance I could get a scan of it?
by Bill Kibby
06 Jun 2021, 13:51
Forum: Piano History
Topic: JW Elliott Piano - help!
Replies: 1
Views: 794

Re: JW Elliott Piano - help!

Photos would help, you can email them to me if that's easier, and I will attempt to battle the software! _email638.jpg Elliott is a common surname, so it's not surprising that there have been at least 15 piano firms with that name, but I haven't found J.W. yet. For more clues, have a look a http://w...
by Bill Kibby
04 Jun 2021, 12:06
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Looking for cabinet Piano or old upright
Replies: 1
Views: 147

Re: Looking for cabinet Piano or old upright

It's the sort of thing that, if it came my way, I would grab, so I wouldn't be any help to you. Unrestored pianos that old have very little cash value, only historical value, and most would require major repinning and restringing, not a job for DIY. Having it professionally restored would cost thous...
by Bill Kibby
09 May 2021, 23:38
Forum: Piano History
Topic: John Spencer & Co., London
Replies: 52
Views: 54379

Re: John Spencer & Co., London

I have answered this twice, but my posts both disappeared.
by Bill Kibby
09 May 2021, 17:50
Forum: Piano History
Topic: John Spencer & Co., London
Replies: 52
Views: 54379

Re: John Spencer & Co., London

I have just replied to your post, but my reply has disappeared, so I am re-doing it. The C&S number is a stock number for Crane & Sons, and indicates that the piano was sold by them some time after 1935, but the piano looks much earlier, perhaps Edwardian. The actual serial number is more li...
by Bill Kibby
09 May 2021, 17:42
Forum: Piano History
Topic: John Spencer & Co., London
Replies: 52
Views: 54379

Re: John Spencer & Co., London

The C&S number is a stock number for Crane & Sons, who will have sold it some time after 1935, but the piano looks Edwardian.
The actual serial number is more likely to be on the vertical surfaces, perhaps painted onto the iron frame. It should be visible simply by lifting the top open.
by Bill Kibby
07 May 2021, 19:41
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Knight piano in America
Replies: 21
Views: 15418

Knight piano in America

Knight pianos are NOT American! The serial number 29773 suggests that it was made in 1960.
I can't remember seeing a 5-octave (and a bit!) Knight, but I will see what I can find out. What are the names of the top and bottom notes?
by Bill Kibby
04 May 2021, 10:02
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Old George Russell upright
Replies: 1
Views: 199

Re: Old George Russell upright

The sticker action would suggest that it was made no later than about 1895. Many tuners don't want to know about historical items, and may condemn them if they don't conform to modern specifications, so I often try to rescue these pieces of history, but even in the UK, I can't usually justify the tr...
by Bill Kibby
30 Apr 2021, 13:00
Forum: Piano History
Topic: 32021 Steck- is it a real Gotha Steck?
Replies: 6
Views: 1098

Re: 32021 Steck- is it a real Gotha Steck?

Nobody anywhere can guess the value or condition of a piano without inspecting it on the spot, and testing to see how well it holds in tune, so your local tuner is the best person to ask.
by Bill Kibby
30 Apr 2021, 10:31
Forum: Piano History
Topic: 32021 Steck- is it a real Gotha Steck?
Replies: 6
Views: 1098

Re: 32021 Steck- is it a real Gotha Steck?

I'll have to think about this one! The name is cast into the iron frame in the normal Steck way, but there is a lot of confusion about the connections and overlaps between Aeolian, Orchestrelle, Pianola, Steck, & Weber. Genuine Stecks were made in several different factories, with different numb...
by Bill Kibby
27 Apr 2021, 19:38
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Could you help ID Schumann piano?
Replies: 3
Views: 1045

Re: Could you help ID Schumann piano?

As with most composers' names, there are many pianos with the fake name Schumann. My Names page... http://www.pianohistory.info/names.html mentions a number of them. The same page mentions that fake German names were commonly used on pianos sold in Australia, whether they were German or not. The fon...
by Bill Kibby
21 Apr 2021, 09:50
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Brewer piano from George C. Bedwell
Replies: 4
Views: 6276

Pump organ from George C. Bedwell

There are a few organ websites, including one called Tardis. I deal with piano history, but there is a great overlap between the piano and organ trades. Geogre Bedwell was originally a piano tuner, but by the 1880s, he had set up his musical instrument warehouse, and it seems unlikely that he made t...
by Bill Kibby
14 Apr 2021, 11:58
Forum: Piano History
Topic: EAVESTAFF piano age
Replies: 3
Views: 4583

Re: EAVESTAFF piano age

If it's an Eavestaff piano, there is no harm in doing this as a reply.
Otherwise, NEW TOPIC is at the top of the forum page.
Below your message, you will see a section for attachments.
by Bill Kibby
12 Apr 2021, 11:52
Forum: Piano History
Topic: 28086 Spencer piano
Replies: 7
Views: 1855

Re: 28086 Spencer piano

On this forum and on my own website, I think it is fair to say that we receive more enquiries about Spencer than any other make, so they must have produced a lot of pianos. It is not always easy relying on numbers for dates, but with Spencer upright pianos, it is simply a matter of opening the top, ...
by Bill Kibby
31 Mar 2021, 20:15
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Metzler & Co Ld Upright Piano
Replies: 6
Views: 1605

Re: Metzler & Co Ld Upright Piano

With the dark-polished pianos of this era, if you strip the polish off, it often reveals that a lot of areas are fake grain, and the outer structure often has a number of different types of wood. I am not a wood expert, so I don't know if they were aiming for rosewood or something, but it does't loo...
by Bill Kibby
31 Mar 2021, 11:53
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Metzler & Co Ld Upright Piano
Replies: 6
Views: 1605

Re: Metzler & Co Ld Upright Piano

I have no firm dates for Metzler numbers, but, judging by its appearance, the piano was probably made around 1890, around the time when Brooks & Co. became Brooks Ltd.
by Bill Kibby
30 Mar 2021, 20:31
Forum: Piano History
Topic: William James Ltd Gold Medal Pianos
Replies: 9
Views: 1256

Re: William James Ltd Gold Medal Pianos

Around that time, London makers often bought in actions from German makers, until the 1914 war. Yours appears to be a German action, and if your tuner feels it is safe to pull out the action, it may be marked on the back with the action makers' name and number, and I may be able to date this. Have y...
by Bill Kibby
29 Mar 2021, 23:25
Forum: Piano History
Topic: William James Ltd Gold Medal Pianos
Replies: 9
Views: 1256

Re: William James Ltd Gold Medal Pianos

Thanks for the photos, it appears to be a typical Edwardian upright, so probably 1900-1910. There was a London maker in the late 1800s named William James, but not limited. 1884 William James, Pianoforte maker, 120 Fulham Road SW. By 1894 he is not listed, but after a gap of a few years, there seems...
by Bill Kibby
28 Mar 2021, 14:21
Forum: Piano History
Topic: William James Ltd Gold Medal Pianos
Replies: 9
Views: 1256

Re: William James Ltd Gold Medal Pianos

There was a William James in London... 1875 Not listed in the Post Office London Directory as a Pianoforte Maker. 1880 William James, Pianoforte maker, 26 City Road EC. 1882 William James, Pianoforte maker, 64 Bread Street. 1884 William James, Pianoforte maker, 120 Fulham Road SW. 1886 Not listed. H...
by Bill Kibby
28 Mar 2021, 13:36
Forum: Piano History
Topic: William James Ltd Gold Medal Pianos
Replies: 9
Views: 1256

Re: William James Ltd Gold Medal Pianos

James is a very common surname, so it is not surprising that there have been a number of piano firms with that name, but I have not yet found William James Ltd.. The word "limited" was not usually shortened to Ltd. before 1900. I have been unable to find him in London lists or national lis...
by Bill Kibby
27 Mar 2021, 12:03
Forum: Piano History
Topic: William James Ltd Gold Medal Pianos
Replies: 9
Views: 1256

Re: William James Ltd Gold Medal Pianos

Being a William James myself, I am sure I would have noticed this name, but I will have a look through my files. However, to save me going through over a million entries manually, I need some clue as to what it looks like, or how old it is. Are you able to post photos here to show what the whole pia...
by Bill Kibby
20 Mar 2021, 18:14
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Lovell Piano maker
Replies: 4
Views: 477

Re: Lovell Piano maker

Thanks for that extra information. Almost all piano makers used specialists to make the iron frames, actions and keys, but I have no way of knowing how much of the building was done by Lovell himself. If you follow my previous link and select the Names page this will answer some of your questions. I...
by Bill Kibby
19 Mar 2021, 15:22
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Lovell Piano maker
Replies: 4
Views: 477

Re: Lovell Piano maker

My Genealogy page... http://www.pianohistory.info/genealogy.html explains that in the census records, "pianoforte maker" usually refers to an employee, not in business in his own name. I would expect that when Lovell was running his own business, from about 1872 to 1895, he might have been...
by Bill Kibby
17 Mar 2021, 12:24
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Piano Collard & Collard
Replies: 1
Views: 291

Collard & Collard piano

Firstly, in spite of some of the published information, Clementi's name appeared first, until his death in 1832, so the piano is not 1820. A more likely estimate is 1872, but it is always unwise to date a piano purely on the basis of numbers. This applies especially to Collards, whose numbers are ra...
by Bill Kibby
13 Mar 2021, 15:01
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Carl Hardt Stuttgart 7452
Replies: 2
Views: 321

Re: Carl Hardt Stuttgart 7452

No serial number dates are published for this maker, but I can tell you that #7465 was dated 1908 on the keys, so yours might be around 1907. If your tuner feels it is safe to pull out the action (the working parts of the notes) it may be marked on the back with the action makers' name and number, a...
by Bill Kibby
11 Mar 2021, 21:21
Forum: Piano History
Topic: H. Hicks & son
Replies: 13
Views: 18926

Re: H. Hicks & son

No reliable dates are available for most Hicks serial numbers, so although I think it is around 1962, I can't prove it. Have a look at
http://www.pianohistory.info/datemarks.html
by Bill Kibby
11 Mar 2021, 17:32
Forum: Piano History
Topic: W. Hoffmann, Berlin
Replies: 10
Views: 2319

Re: W. Hoffmann, Berlin

It is interesting that your post is timed at 1701 today, but I am answering it at 1630pm!

Candles were dying out in the twenties, many houses didn't need them anymore, but some pianos did have mains-operated lights, especially in the 1930s.
by Bill Kibby
07 Mar 2021, 12:56
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Imperial Organ & Piano Ltd. London
Replies: 3
Views: 974

Re: Imperial Organ & Piano Ltd. London

I did answer an enquiry about this piano some time ago, from Phoenix. No dates of serial numbers are available, but I have heard of quite a few examples over the years. The company name did not mention organs until about 1898. They were in business in 1899, and still around in 1961, but the Herrburg...
by Bill Kibby
03 Mar 2021, 12:21
Forum: Piano History
Topic: W. Hoffmann, Berlin
Replies: 10
Views: 2319

Re: W. Hoffmann, Berlin

Thanks for the photo, that number suggests that it was made in 1928, so your 1930 figure was not far out.
by Bill Kibby
02 Mar 2021, 00:07
Forum: Piano History
Topic: W. Hoffmann, Berlin
Replies: 10
Views: 2319

Re: W. Hoffmann, Berlin

It should be a simple number, imprinted next to the name, like this example.
1912~Jacob750a.jpg
by Bill Kibby
01 Mar 2021, 13:36
Forum: Piano History
Topic: W. Hoffmann, Berlin
Replies: 10
Views: 2319

Re: Piano W. Hoffmann

Names like Hofman, Hoffman, Hoffmann, Hofmann, Haufmann and Hauptmann can be found on many old pianos, and although some of these may be real makers' names, some are certainly fake. Regarding Jacob, the address is Berlin SO, meaning South West. If you can read a serial number off the back of the act...
by Bill Kibby
27 Feb 2021, 12:43
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Steinmeyer Berlin age
Replies: 3
Views: 3408

J.& J.Hopkinson

Your information is posted as a reply about Steinmeyer, Berlin, but this name does not appear in your post, so you might get better results if you post it as a new topic. It is unwise to really purely on numbers to give a date for a piano, and Hopkinson is one example where the published dates are m...
by Bill Kibby
21 Feb 2021, 12:02
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Squeaky keys
Replies: 1
Views: 340

Re: T-34 mechanic meets piano

As I am dealing with a room full of squeaky keys, I disagree. The bushing cloth is not the cause, it's the tarnishing of the metal pins, which happens more often when the atmosphere is cool, especially if it is heated occasionally, causing condensation. The solution is simple. Remove all the keys, t...
by Bill Kibby
18 Feb 2021, 01:11
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Erard Grand Piano
Replies: 3
Views: 579

Re: Erard Grand Piano

The other possibility is that if your tuner feels it is safe to pull out the action, it may be dated at the lefthand end.
by Bill Kibby
15 Feb 2021, 14:03
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Erard Grand Piano
Replies: 3
Views: 579

Re: Erard Grand Piano

The number suggests that it was made in 1893. Near the bottom of my Archives page http://www.pianohistory.info/archives.html there is some information about Erards' archives, which are becoming available online. If you move to the right of the serial number, near the hinges, is there an oblong mark ...
by Bill Kibby
11 Feb 2021, 11:52
Forum: Piano History
Topic: German upright piano "RIESE", Gustav Slawik, Halle-Saale
Replies: 3
Views: 529

Re: German upright piano "RIESE", Gustav Slawik, Halle-Saale

At the moment, I have no information at all about Riese, but I will see what I can find.
On the action, where it says "Berlin" can you see the action makers' name?
Is Gustav Slawik a retailer?
by Bill Kibby
10 Feb 2021, 11:59
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Dunham Square Grand
Replies: 3
Views: 3040

Re: Dunham Square Grand

1867 Dunham's son John B. Dunham junior joined, and the firm became Dunham & Son, 111 East 13th To many people, a piano is a musical instrument, and if it does not conform to modern specifications, they don't want to know. I am a piano historian, and anxious to conserve early pianos. My own webs...
by Bill Kibby
06 Feb 2021, 19:26
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Jackson piano
Replies: 1
Views: 500

Re: Jackson piano

I must apologise for the fact that, because of a fault, the forum didn't show me your enquiry. The page has been altered this week. Jackson was at 33 Southgate Street in 1899, but moved to 48 shortly after, and remained there at least until the thirties. Unfortunately, no dates of serial numbers are...
by Bill Kibby
04 Feb 2021, 15:44
Forum: Piano History
Topic: B.Squire Piano sold by Cuthbertson
Replies: 13
Views: 1614

Re: Looking for Info - B.Squire Piano

It is common practice in all kinds of trades, and Kemble had bought the rights for several old piano names. The label under the keys would probably identify it as a Kemble as well.
For more information on piano names, see
http://www.pianohistory.info/names.html
by Bill Kibby
04 Feb 2021, 15:11
Forum: Piano History
Topic: B.Squire Piano sold by Cuthbertson
Replies: 13
Views: 1614

Re: Looking for Info - B.Squire Piano

The number preceded by K is a Kemble serial number, and indicates that the piano was made by Kemble in 1939.
1939SquireKemble#70732 (2).jpeg
1939SquireKemble#70732 (1).jpeg
by Bill Kibby
04 Feb 2021, 14:24
Forum: Piano History
Topic: B.Squire Piano sold by Cuthbertson
Replies: 13
Views: 1614

Re: Looking for Info - B.Squire Piano

I shall attempt to upload some of the photos, and the new system seems a lot better. The action was made by Herrburger Brooks Ltd., which means that it was made after 1919. My general impression is thirties, but I wouldn't place any significance on a number on a sticky label. BSquire&Son_for...
by Bill Kibby
04 Feb 2021, 13:30
Forum: Piano History
Topic: B.Squire Piano sold by Cuthbertson
Replies: 13
Views: 1614

Re: Looking for Info - B.Squire Piano

If you look at pianohistory.info you will see it. If I type it here, I get masses of spam.
by Bill Kibby
04 Feb 2021, 13:24
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Skerratt piano from Hedges, Hants
Replies: 3
Views: 3558

Re: Skerratt piano from Hedges, Hants

Yes, my Numbers page
http://www.pianohistory.info/names.html
explains that many piano names are meaningless.
I will see if I can look up anything about Hedges.
Skerratt is a better-known name.
If you can post photos here to show what the whole piano looks like, this may help.
by Bill Kibby
03 Feb 2021, 19:17
Forum: Piano History
Topic: B.Squire Piano sold by Cuthbertson
Replies: 13
Views: 1614

Re: Looking for Info - B.Squire Piano

Cuthbertson began his business shortly before 1900, and was still there in 1968.
If you would like to email the photos to me, I should be able to post them here.
by Bill Kibby
02 Feb 2021, 21:17
Forum: Piano History
Topic: B.Squire Piano sold by Cuthbertson
Replies: 13
Views: 1614

Re: Looking for Info - B.Squire Piano

No reliable dates are published for the various Squire pianos, which seem to have used different numbers at different times.
It could be 1880s or 1890s, or around 1906, or 1976!

Are you able to post photos here to show what the whole piano looks like?
by Bill Kibby
02 Feb 2021, 21:08
Forum: Piano History
Topic: E. Wheatland & Sons
Replies: 3
Views: 435

Re: E. Wheatland & Sons

No dates are published for Wheatland serial numbers, but...

1914 "E. Wheatland & Sons, 413, Harrow Road, London" piano #22,074, iron frame date 13.6.14B neear the bottom.
Are you able to post photos here to show what the whole piano looks like?
by Bill Kibby
02 Feb 2021, 21:04
Forum: Piano History
Topic: Knauss - how old is my new piano?
Replies: 1
Views: 280

Re: Knauss - how old is my new piano?

Serial numbers are usually at least 5 digits.
I f your tuner thinks it is safe to pull out the action, it should be marked on the back with the action makers' name and number, and I may be able to date this.
by Bill Kibby
30 Jan 2021, 14:44
Forum: Piano History
Topic: PASSWORDS
Replies: 0
Views: 819

PASSWORDS

Details removed, software won't let me delete it.