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I used to go to services at my local 'queen's church' (where my favourite piano teacher is the Director of Music and regular Sunday organist) and although I was quite interested in the workings of the instrument, I never had a chance to get a good look at the console because she always locked it straight away after the service (probably because she knew I was interested in it - not because I wanted to tinker around with it but because I was interested in how the thing worked).
You'll know the answer to this Gillian.....maybe both rows are at the same pitch but different stops can work on each keyboard so it can be possible to play one row with different tones but the other with a completely different set of tones or none at all.
One manual is usually the Great, and the other is the Swell. Not because some yank thinks it's nice but because it responds to the loud/soft pedal which is called the swell. So you make the sound of that manual louder by opening the swell (often a louvred effort which opens to let the racket out).However if you use the coupler 'swell to great' then it will affect the great manual as well. That's about all I know as I ain't a proper organist, just a pianist who couldn't move fast enough. Both manuals are, as Feg says, the same compass.
The one at my local C of E, according to one of the wardens, was installed as a 'people's organ' meaning that it belongs to the people of the parish but under the custody of the church. However, whilst the current Director of Music is in place, it will never ever belong to this person in the parish!
Rather call you G****** than Gertrude.
My dad's organ in St John's Glastonbury had four manuals - like the mightly wurtle-izer. He fell downstairs in the middle of the night and broke his arm, and after a week off in hospitalo, he accompanied services for a week or two with one hand and two feet.
The manuals were (are), from top to bottom: solo, swell, great, choir. Extra manual are usually for quick changes of "orchestration"
I wish I could just go into my local branch of the UK Government church for the service and take a good look without someone either thinking I'm some sort of geek (which I suppose I am) or assessing how much money the pipes might sell for once they're melted down. Will never happen in my local church though, that's a fact.
Pity my wife's not interested in these instruments as I could spend hours gazing at the console in Worcester Cathedral trying to work out what controls what (again, like a geek).
Mind you, it also advises that the choirboy (no girls, natch) should "see...that you are neatly dressed and that your hair is tidy." I may submit my resignation then...
You really do not need to buy The Daily Sun, all the gossip is here
http://www.musicteachers.co.uk/teacher/ ... c89cfdc1bb
If she ever got married to someone called Willis, she could be Georgia Willis-Organ??
They are infact based in Malvern and their organs and/or restoration projects are to be found all over the world, but most notably here in England. Their website is very big and so I shall spend a lovely afternoon reading up on them, their factory and their projects, past and present (providing my wife has no other plans....)
They even have some Youtube vids to watch:
Does anyone remember on Flog It a few years ago there was a tour of the Willis factory in Liverpool and it showed how pipes were cast, cut and finally voiced???
It's good to know that even after the last piano factory in England closed a while ago, that we still manufacture these kings of instruments. Would love to go on a tour of the Willis factory, and indeed the Nicholson one.
Fancy having a go on there Gill? Would be a cracking little geek's hideyhole that's warmed by the rising hot air of the congregations' voices and body heat - so no need for a fan heater!
Cambridge Meeting will be on 20th June 10am St. Mary the
Great and about 1.30pn at Jesus College
St. Mary the Great (2 Organs) at 10.00: then Lunch in Michael House
Restaurant at own expense followed by a 15 minute walk to Jesus College
(3 organs) at 1.30: pm organist will be George De-Voil.
its open to none members the one I went to 2 years ago was very good you get to go inside the organ
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It must be quite offputting to say the least!!! Mind you, one thing Tracey needs is some storage for all her music and choir paraphernalia. All round and about the organ, on and under the benches and even on the console is packed to the rafters with all this unsightly farage that just looks such a mess (she's got an even bigger farage mountain in her car and at her house!)
The handbells and foam cushioning are buried within!!
She should be made a Dame!!!
One of the readers is also a piano player, I think he should have a go on the organ as well occasionally. Tracey told me he has but I've never seen him.
We occasionally have this 'rover' to play for us....and she is BRILLIANT!!!
I've not really asked her. I've not given it a thought to be honest, Gill.Gill the Piano wrote:Does Tracey let you have a good old Cwm Rhondda/Hydrofoil now and then?
I gave it a go, never really enjoyed it, but kept going and enjoyed it less and less and became more anxious and more neurotic about it. Giving up was the best thing I've ever done - that's why I left this page in April 2015, I'm much, much happier these days as a mere listener to piano music and an admirer of other pianists and organists.Gill the Piano wrote:Well it's a waste if you don't have another go - you were good!
I did see a new teacher as recently as last week, but as sight reading was involved, and as soon as I had to do that, I just thought 'maybe I should try and MAKE myself enjoy it (these pieces were old g1 pieces). But I couldn't.
People over on the other forum have been talking with me about carrying on when I was on the verge of quitting with my new teacher, but yet again their moderation have booted me off there, and get this they have even used a two way cookie to bar me from even seeing the comments that their forum users, some of whom are piano teachers and adult learners have left for me out of the kindness of their own hearts, because they wanted me to carry on. They (the ABRSM moderation) have not even been reasonable enough to send me an email to tell me WHY my account has been suspended. I shall not hesitate to say (and I shall put it into bold type) the moderator of the ABRSM forum needs to be removed from the United Kingdom and given a one way ticket to North Korea.
But now, what is the point of carrying on? I am not one of nature's little pianists. If I was, I surely wouldn't have had all this heartache and persistent adversity, coupled with near zero enjoyment.
The poster piano4solihull made this comment on this page four years ago...and she is absolutely right. I should have listened to her then:
I seemingly had three messages on twitter from Dave Brum (well I assume it was him ) saying how much he hated playing the piano and how it made him ill. He then dissapeared!
I then read another post from him saying he had failed grade 3 after having a panic attack - unless its a different person - but all the threads have been written the same, almost as if he needs to stop playing if it makes him ill, I always tell my adults not to take exams if it is going to make them stressed/ill. I encourage them all to go through the process of learning scales and sightreading to improve their reading not for exams.
Playing the piano should be fun and relaxed and if it is not, then do something you do enjoy
I've enjoyed playing handbells in 12 months much more that I've enjoyed pianos in ten years. That is a fact.
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