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- Colin Nicholson
- Executive Poster
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- Joined: 04 Jul 2010, 19:15
- Location: Morpeth, Northumberland
Well done for relearning all your piano skills again. If you can play some of the Chopin waltzes.... then I reckon you must be from at least Grade 6 or 7 standard. The Beethoven sonatas however vary greatly in grade, from Grade 8 to Diploma and concert standard!
Speaking from personal experience, I enjoy thoroughly teaching adults of all ages, and recently taught a gentleman aged 80 ! I would hope that any decent piano teacher would like to hear you play.
If you already have a selection of music you play, during the early stages of your playing to a teacher, its best that they dont intervene too early with ......"oh, you need to learn this" .... however regrettably, some adults I teach have picked up terrible habits on the piano, and sometimes trying to correct them "using your own music" is not easy... the most common mistakes are incorrect fingering, lack of expression and occasional errors in rhythm.... however, I am not suggesting this is your playing by any means.... its a general thing I have noted.
A teacher teaching an elder adult tends to be more of a 'mentor' than anything else.
Funny.... even when I taught this elderly gentleman, I would make corrections to some notes, and rhythm.... and he would say.... "oh, I didn't think I made any mistakes"..... so also alot of the 'aural training' you may have had in your younger days tends to wash away.
I rarely "pull out all the stops" for adult tuition, basically because they are very busy doing others things, or never do exactly as you suggest (I hear variations which tend to amuse adults better because they often get quickly bored if they do it correctly!!).... there are many more anecdotes & issues....
However, I would definitely pick up the phone.... many teachers should offer a free induction first or even a free lesson, so its best to get a taste first before taking the plunge.
Hope that helps......
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- Joined: 25 Jun 2010, 12:36
- Location: www.grademusicworld.com
Just give me a chance to have another teacher, but it had better be sooner rather than later, else it's going to get increasingly hard to find one older them me
Unfortunately I have had similar experiences as described above.grademusictutorscom wrote:There are many 'elder' pupils who enjoy classical piano pieces and there should be enough teachers who are happy to help. I might get critisized for this but I feel older teachers bond better with pupils of a similar age as they would have been taught back in the 40s to 60s about the great classical and romatic composers by their own teachers whereas the younger ones are all about 'street cred' and appealing to kids by teaching them what's in the charts. I could be wrong so if any younger teachers (pref in their 20s) are out there that have older pupils, let me know.
I have also noticed that as an "older beginner" I was not necessarily taken
with a similar seriousness as a young beginner or a child would be taken if they really want to learn.
I was also charged a higher price because I am an adult beginner and at the same time
it was difficult for me to be treated like a serious student who wants to learn playing the piano
and read music in their spare time as a hobby.
One teacher for example wanted to present me with little "star stickers" in my beginners book
for my good achievement and treated me generally like a little 5-year old. I found this extremely embarrassing.
One of the problems for adult beginners like myself is perhaps that "the market" is rather set-up
for children to start and learn
I am sure there are lots of adult beginners like myself
who wanted to learn the piano for many years but had not the chance
and when they are older an opportunity comes along
and they want to start and learn playing the piano
but they find themselves relying on their own resources without a teacher.
I now learn without a teacher and do as well as I possibly could
and I enjoy every little success with my development and I love every minute of it.
It is a journey of great discovery and well worth the trouble.
Thank you, Gill, for sharing your experience with us.Gill the Piano wrote:I had similar experiences learning the guitar; as an adult it is sometimes presumed that you only want to 'knock a tune out' whereas I wanted to learn properly in as great a depth as a child starting out would . It was a great joy - and a bit of a shock! - when I found a teacher who did exactly that!
Like yourself, I don't "just want to knock out a tune"
but I want to learn really and properly how to play the piano.
Unfortunately, for the time being,
I have to learn the best I can without a teacher.
Hopefully there will be some piano teachers around in the future
who like music and share their knowledge with adult beginners
and hopefully they are much more understanding and realize
that there are many adults around, who just never had a chance
or the privilege to learn how to play the piano as children;
but they certainly give it a go later on in life
and they really need a little help from an understanding teacher on their side.
Kind regards from Kristina.
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