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Tempo question

Post by SirTK » 07 Jan 2013, 13:10

A piece I'm learning says "Slowly minim=69" which doesn't seem at all slow to me, in fact my metronome rates it as "allegro".

I reckon it should be moderato at about 58. Any opinions - it's White Cliffs of Dover.

It's all a bit confusing for those of us who haven't much idea to start with :roll:

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Re: Tempo question

Post by Gill the Piano » 07 Jan 2013, 17:36

I agree with you more than the metronome mark you describe. My rule of thumb is if the composer him/herself didn't put the metronome mark in, it's every man for himself. If they DID put it in, then I follow the Associated Board comment 'as fast as you can, as slow as you must'!
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Re: Tempo question

Post by Colin Nicholson » 07 Jan 2013, 18:56

Terry,

69 per minim is a bit on the quick side yes.... I usually play this piece at around 52 bpm, especially if accompanying to Vera Lynn !!!.... and maybe slower again.

Depending on the time signature, I've seen some versions in 2/2 time, (normally 4/4) so the above metronome marking would be "according" to the lower number in the time signature - hence a minim beat (alla breve).

My version is in E flat major (3 flats) .... and in 4/4 time, but no metronome marking - however, your marking is probably justed edited in - so just ignore it.

Your metronome won't know if its a minim beat or not, so it might "think" its a crotchet beat (ie about 138 bpm on your music).... so Allegro matches the numbers, but not the 'beat' .... if you get my drift?

I've quickly sketched on my PC a beginner's version.... (its in C major) - does it look similar to this? .... that is the time signature and minim = ?

(2/2 time is also shown as a capital letter 'C' with a line through it - means the same as 2/2)

See below & hope that helps....
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Re: Tempo question

Post by SirTK » 08 Jan 2013, 16:17

Agreed Colin!

My first stop was one of the many Vera versions on Youtube - she averaged about 44 though it was really hard to time it with the "Cadence BPM Tapper" as she seemed to be all over the place. I tried to blot out the voice and tap to the band but clearly they were adjusting to her singing as she went along.

My version is in 2/2 and yes, the tempo mark is as per your sketch. I prefer to play to the crochets initially, so set 138 and no way could I keep up. Must be some crazy zydeco version.

Wouldn't you think, though, that the book would be more accurate, particularly as it's aimed at beginners/poor players/musical numbskulls (delete as appropriate). It's grade 2 for heaven's sake, in the what Else Can I Play series.

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Re: Tempo question

Post by gizzy » 21 Jan 2013, 10:25

Often, though, a slow beat is harder to keep steady than a fast one.

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