Sames Piano

[del680]

I have a Sames piano that belonged to my grandmother. It has the names Alderson & Brentnall on the inside above the keys. I was also told it has ivory keys which have yellowed and was also told it was made around 1870. I have attached a few pictures. I have moved this piano several times and now it lives in USA. There are not many piano restorers over here either, so we don't use it. It definitely needs tuning.

[Bill Kibby]

In order to tell you anything about the piano from photos, I need to see what the whole thing looks like on the outside. Interior details would be a bonus. It seems that Sames was not a piano maker until about 1886, he was just a dealer. I can't find any record of surviving Sames pianos made before the 1890s.

If you can find any numbers (usually just by opening to top) these might help.

Alderson & Brentnall began in the 1890s, and were still in business in the fifties.

To get an idea what an 1870 piano would look like, see
http://www.pianohistory.info/victorian.html

If you want to search inside the piano for clues, see
http://www.pianohistory.info/datemarks.html

[del680]

I took a few more pictures but it's very dusty on the inside and I can find no serial numbers.

[Bill Kibby]

It looks a typical Edwardian piano, perhaps around 1907, as described at
http://www.pianohistory.info/edwardian.html

The action (the working parts of the notes) appears to be an import from Germany, which is probably before the 1914 war. If your tuner feels it is safe to remove the action, it may have the action makers' name and number, and we may be able to date it.