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joseph

He has probably mixed the figures up, the 190 will be more expensive. Anyway, Estonia pianos have gone up in price in the last decade, I remember when I was looking to buy a piano the 168 was about 12k, or something, that was about 5 to 7 years ago. I wanted something bigger although I was impressed...

joseph

Sorry, earlier on the O.P. had asked 'if you had 25k plus what would you buy' or something.

Also, referring to a larger model, either a 6'3 or 7'4.

I don't know how much Estonias cost.

joseph

You're very lucky and obviously very passionate if you are willing to spend up to 8000. There are so many options for you. I see relatively young Steinway uprights sometimes go for around that price, any new japanese piano, some of the lower end but very good german pianos, perhaps sometimes you can...

joseph

I wasn't saying I'd pay for it hehe.... Actually if spending a large amount on a piano, and 24k is a large amount, you want something that should you HAVE to sell, you'll a decent price for it in the future. I think an Estonia, as lovely as it is, might depreciate something rotten. I guess it's best...

joseph

and the was originally about Estonias.... yeah OK I'd have one.

joseph

I would say that every piano from Leverret's has the unique tone. The old Bluthners are beautiful when rebuilt, and of course, they will last, because the plank, soundboard, action and keyboard in most cases is completely new. However, they're not all round pianos, they're not suited to all repertoi...

joseph

On the other hand, there are many old pianos beautifully rebuilt, with new boards and planks in the UK by the leveretts.

joseph

Well, why don't you keep the piano for yourself, if you are a flautist you probably should have a piano if you ever practise with an accompanist.

The Knight was a decent piano, not in the league of a Yamaha action wise, but tone wise its one of the nicest English pianos around. Very well built too.

joseph

The thing with any piano of that age is the condition. The Bosendorfer upright is a beautiful piano, but I'm not sure how much they sell for on the second hand market. For instance, a Steinway in good original condition from the 1920s could sell for 2-4k, restrung and reconditioned it could sell for...

joseph

Any Yamaha or Roland digital piano from about 1995 onwards with hammer action and at least 64 voice polyphony, although even 32 would be enough since she's probably not going to study piano to degree level. That said, she might, but this is a decent starting point. Sounds like Mark's got something g...

joseph

The Grieg was recorded on a 1984 Steinway Model D in the Caird Hall in Dundee, serviced and prepped by Norman Motion. It's a wonderful piano, quite bright but it's a huge hall so it suits the acoustic. The Bach and Mozart were played on my 1912 Bluthner style 8, it's showing its age but actually the...

joseph

Hi everyone, I've posted some new recordings to my website, of Bach, Haydn and Mozart for you all to enjoy. Let me know what you think.

www.josephfleetwood.co.uk

joseph

If I'm being perfectly honest, Yamaha U1s and U3s have always struck me as decent mid range pianos, excellent construction, reliable, decent sound. Never much to write home about. Bostons for me tend to fall into that category but seem a bit more robust. Some Bostons sound sweet, and some sound quit...

joseph

£100 - £200 Would you rather try and sell a U3 or a Chappell? People love U3s but nobody gets too excited over a Chappell I get your point but its not quite what I meant. I'd rather have a U3 than a Chappell too, but with a 50 year old instrument there are many other factors that come into play. In...

joseph

It's a 50 year old upright or thereabouts.... what would you pay for a Chappell?

joseph

It's a shame that the original Feurich has stopped making pianos in Germany. They were sweet pianos indeed. EXPENSIVE! But nice.

joseph

sweet looking piano. I love old pianos - not for heavy practice but for an interesting and sweet tone! Love it.

joseph

Ladies like the U1, Men like the U3 - OH WOW! That's pretty cutting (but quite funny!) I like both models actually- the U1s that I've played tend to sound a little sweeter than the U3s i've played - I haven't played either model in a long time mind you. Thats probably more down to voicing than anyth...

joseph

Most Knights I've seen have that plaque on the back. I think it's just that it was wood from the same region, the wood of a piano soundboard is obviously thicker than a violin.

The bright sound most probably comes from hard hammer heads which Knight pianos have.

joseph

Oh no, I forgot he was in Tripoli. I hope he's OK.

joseph

I am intrigued as to the outcome of this piano.

joseph

- brings back memories of the Knight I used to own. It went too bright towards the end of me having it, but then I practised on it from 1996 til 2002, about 3 to 7 hours a day on a regular basis. I wish I'd been able to have a grand piano as a youngster but alas I couldn't. I didn't come from a musi...

joseph

Knight pianos are very well made, sweet sounding pianos. I find the action on them is quite limiting. However, if we're talking about sentimental value, only you can judge that. The retail value of a Knight, reconditioned, from a shop, will be in the region of two thousand pounds. It depends on how ...

joseph

www.josephfleetwood.co.uk

woops...

joseph

Could I get some feedback on my site? What people think it needs, and what you like about it.

The soundclips were done on a Steinway D, btw.

There are more pictures to come, I'm waiting on some contact sheets etc.

joseph

Their salaries?

joseph

To me the piano wouldn't be worth a penny, and to many dealers it wouldn't. That's not to say that someone somewhere wont want it and offer you something for it.

joseph

thats exactly it - digital pianos are like looking at a photograph. sometimes a photo can be very good and give you the impression you are actually there, but its one dimensional.

joseph

Uprights will always have a different response to grands. The upright I play most is one that I teach on in school. Its a Boston 118 and actually I have no problem practising anything on it. Yamaha U series and any piano from the premium makers are also excellent. Honestly, if you get a good technic...

joseph

when buying any piano what you need to think of most is, do you like the sound of the piano. Whether it is a Boston, Steinway, Schimmel, Kawai, Bluthner, Bosendorfer or whatever is actually not relevant. Personally my favourite pianos are, in any price range, Steinway, Yamaha S series, Bluthner, Bos...

joseph

A well prepped C3 or RX3 is an excellent piano indeed. In my experience the S series are streets ahead and worth paying for if you can afford it. Bostons are good solid instruments that have a pleasing action and sound. The buy-back scheme is good if you think you'll be able to afford a Steinway wit...

joseph

There was a time when my ego would have got the better of me and I'd have got very screwed up over such things! I just have to find out what to repair in my technique so that its as performance-proof as I can make it. Chopin Etudes are helping!

joseph

Pipe organs these days tend to have electric actions which are easy to play. The old tracker actions are a nightmare though! If it's a digital organ its obviously not that much of a problem, especially if you're a pianist, because the key action is so light. However, it can get pretty cold in church...

joseph

This is an excellent topic and will hopefully be one that attracts some good posts. About 18 months ago I went to play in a competition in Vienna. I played Bach's prelude and fugue in D from WTC-2, Moskowski 1st Etude and Haydn E-flat major sonata No.49. All pieces I could play perfectly at home. Al...

joseph

Yes there is the Tankard book, there are also books like Seymour Fink's mastering piano technique. You really need a very good teacher in order to show you how these things work. There is only so much you can get from reading a book. Trust me on this one because I've had a few students come to me af...

joseph

One of my schools replaced their old upright with a CLP-370. As digital pianos go its quite good, a nicely made decent sounding digital. However, I know they could afford a Yamaha U1 new but they chose not to buy one. That really annoyed me because even the CLP-370 falls short for teaching on. If it...

joseph

Yamaha are the most consistent and have the best keyboard actions throughout their range. However, I've been quite impressed with some of the new Rolands so I'll keep a look out. I have a Yamaha and I wont upgrade because I don't use it very much so there is no point.

joseph

I quite agree with that too. A steinway with a new plank and soundboard, action and reveneered case from Steinways in London would be a pretty safe bet for a good piano. They are priced so that you may as well buy a new one though.

joseph

I know what you mean but I'm a pianist and piano teacher by trade, and we always wear our pianos out. Goes with the territory. I think in about 5 years or so (all being well) I'll get a new piano, maybe a Kawai RX or a Boston 215, Yamaha S or something, and keep the Brodmann for all the heavy work a...

joseph

The problem is that most people know nothing about pianos. They are very expensive and people will take the dealer at face value. I'm not talking about the dealers regularly posting on here who are all scrupulous. I've seen many people buying things like a 'restored' bechstein upright for 7 grand, o...

joseph

Maybe you should just have your C3 voiced differently? They're pretty good pianos and one so young will just be coming into its own about now. I like the sound of my Brodmann, really beautiful tone, sweeter than Yamaha BUT the build quality isn't all that great, which I'm not too bothered about as I...

joseph

The industry standard practice/studio grand piano is probably the Yamaha C3, those seem to be the ones I've seen most of. In quality (preparation perhaps?) they can range from the sublime to the downright awful. In most conservatoires the Steinway B is the standard teaching piano. I haven't seen all...

joseph

Agree - always go for an established dealer who can back up the purchase with prep, new or second hand.

joseph

Reading the posts without playing the pianos, I'd go for a new Kawai over an older Chappell. Playing the pianos, I might fall in love with the Chappell. They are pretty good pianos and if the price is competitive, then why not go for it? Reading between the lines it sounds like you've set your heart...

joseph

I've had the piano 3 and a half years and its had a full regulation twice - when it was delivered it was given one paid for by the shop, and then 2 years after that it was given another one. The hammers were re-shaped at that time too. The piano does get heavy use since I practise a lot. I guess the...

joseph

I pay £70 to get my piano tuned, the tuner is from Edinburgh and I am in Dundee. I wouldn't ask anyone else in the area to tune my piano to be honest, but thats also because I have a good relationship with my tuner and I trust him to do whatever needs done. If the piano needs more, like hammer re-sh...

joseph

PianoLove wrote:They so are worth saving- or there wouldn't be all the restoration piano firms out there! My old Piano is gorgeous- I love him and he is going to have his mendings done in the next few months.

good point but read my whole post.....

joseph

I agree re old pianos. Generally they're not worth saving. Most of them are musically unsatisfying. That said, I have played a few older welmars, chappells, broadwoods that have been beautiful, not to mention steinways, bluthners and bosendorfers that have been stunning. My own Bluthner has a beauti...

joseph

i think he's probably just some sad old man with too many pianos and a big imagination. and a crap dress sense.

joseph

OK, the ones I played in Steinway hall felt and sounded like most of the NY steinways I had played. Not a negative point, just an observation. According to a rep at Steinway Hall, the Bostons are designed to incorporate as many of the features of a Steinway as possible, and explained it was the NY S...

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